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soviet 07-12-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 902537)
welp thats all that matters.....I vote borked churbo again but dunno

:winner::winner::winner::winner:

Found something on my driveway :rofl:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342143441

full resolution glory - http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...d/DSC_0877.JPG

18psi 07-12-2012 09:45 PM

your are the EFR cryptonite:laugh:

you going to park the car til september or take Garretts offer?

soviet 07-12-2012 09:51 PM

2445 miles (including 4 hours of track).
I'm surprised I racked up that many miles on my car o_O

soviet 07-12-2012 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 902547)
your are the EFR cryptonite:laugh:

you going to park the car til september or take Garretts offer?

I'm going to park it. Maybe run N/A but don't want to.

Garrett offer is long gone and frankly I still love this damn thing.

Faeflora 07-12-2012 10:05 PM

Vband to t4 adapter

Lets see what the airwerks can do.

Braineack 07-13-2012 01:44 PM

does it still whine? rofl.

soviet 07-13-2012 02:39 PM

I think that's just diff noise to be honest. Its inaudible (at least to me) IRL but the camera picks it up really well.

Braineack 07-16-2012 12:34 PM

Nice sig.

18psi 07-16-2012 12:42 PM

incomplete. let me help you:

The year's '91 and my trunk is raw
In my rear view mirror is the mother efn EF ARRR
If you havin boost problems I feel bad for you son
I got 99 problems but a turbine wheel aint one

Braineack 07-16-2012 12:52 PM

lololollolllodsalodsadsaflsa

Braineack 07-16-2012 12:53 PM

okay fixed. good team effort.

soviet 07-16-2012 12:55 PM

I think to complete the package my avatar needs to be an empty turbine housing.

Reverant 07-16-2012 12:57 PM

You has no trubo wheel.

soviet 07-16-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 903773)
You has no trubo wheel.

I haz external trubo wheel :party:

soviet 07-16-2012 10:36 PM

So I've been driving a bit as-is. Meaning all the turbo stuff minus the turbo wheel.

WOW IT'S FUСKING SLOW

I datalogged for kicks and apparently I hit a whooping 80-85kPa in 2nd at redline. It quite a bit less than the 250kPa I was hitting before....

Also THIS turbo was originally bought from Himni racing, not Full Race, like first one. I left them a voicemail today without a response. Tomorrow, I look forward to telling them the story of my life. Will updatezzz!

Bryce 07-16-2012 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 904024)
So I've been driving a bit as-is. Meaning all the turbo stuff minus the turbo wheel.

WOW IT'S FUСKING SLOW

I datalogged for kicks and apparently I hit a whooping 80-85kPa in 2nd at redline. It quite a bit less than the 250kPa I was hitting before....

Also THIS turbo was originally bought from Himni racing, not Full Race, like first one. I left them a voicemail today without a response. Tomorrow, I look forward to telling them the story of my life. Will updatezzz!

Yup. When I bought it, Full Race was out of stock. Miatas without forced induction suuuuck.

18psi 07-16-2012 11:46 PM

lol I feel your pain. when I went back to NONEOFIT on my 00 to pass smog I almost commit suicide

soviet 07-16-2012 11:53 PM

Simply driving around it's not too bad. Just every time I go WOT, I give up 3 seconds later because, honestly, what's the point????

Faeflora 07-17-2012 01:13 AM

Himini racing is good people

Bryce 07-18-2012 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 904044)
Simply driving around it's not too bad. Just every time I go WOT, I give up 3 seconds later because, honestly, what's the point????

The point is to keep from getting run over by the minivan-driving soccer mom behind you.

soviet 07-18-2012 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 904601)
The point is to keep from getting run over by the minivan-driving soccer mom behind you.

When turbine wheel falls off, the shaft starts leaking oil - straight into the exhaust. So you get a smoke screen built in when you WOT :party::party::party:

soviet 07-18-2012 02:27 PM

So I decided to just run my ancient SR20 T25 for the time being. I eyeballed the turbos and the T25 turbine housing is a good 1-1.5" shorter than the EFR. So with a T25-to-v-band adapter, it should fit my current exhaust manifold and downpipe.

Then it's just a matter of assembing cold side IC piping with my le-old recirc BOV and all that crap. Should be easy.

No word from Himni yet... wasnt' able to reach them by phone, sent an email yesterday.

Bryce 07-18-2012 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 904854)
So I decided to just run my ancient SR20 T25 for the time being. I eyeballed the turbos and the T25 turbine housing is a good 1-1.5" shorter than the EFR. So with a T25-to-v-band adapter, it should fit my current exhaust manifold and downpipe.

Then it's just a matter of assembing cold side IC piping with my le-old recirc BOV and all that crap. Should be easy.

No word from Himni yet... wasnt' able to reach them by phone, sent an email yesterday.

I'm interested to see how that plays out. I'm thinking about that with some cheap-o turbo until I can actually finish my 2.0.

It took a few tries for me to get a hold of them when I ordered the turbo.



Originally Posted by soviet (Post 904729)
When turbine wheel falls off, the shaft starts leaking oil - straight into the exhaust. So you get a smoke screen built in when you WOT :party::party::party:

Touché, Mr. Bond.

soviet 07-19-2012 02:47 PM

Got a response from Himni that they are forwarding my warranty request to technical department :) e.g. normal response in this case.

This bit is interesting, though


Right now all EFR’s are on back order with Borg Warner till sometime in August but with you having to go through the warranty process time you should still fall somewhere into that time frame and the back order should not effect you much.
"Sometime in August" still holds. I'll be ecstatic if they don't push that estimate back.

curly 07-19-2012 03:33 PM

Sdefr?

soviet 07-19-2012 03:34 PM

Que? Что? Wut?

curly 07-19-2012 03:38 PM

Stewart Development EFR.

They'll be ready "tomorrow".

Ring a bell?

soviet 07-19-2012 04:02 PM

lol >_<
I don't think it'll be that bad.
I had my share of "it will be ready on _____". Waited 3 months for XIDA, still waiting for Trackspeed radiator. In this case it's something outside of Full Race/Himni power, not Bernie neglecting customers.

soviet 07-24-2012 12:34 PM

I'm just going to post the whole email because this is fuсking mindblowing


HR Customer Service customerservice@himni-racing.com
date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM
subject: Re: EFR6258 turbine wheel failure

Hello Lenny,

We contacted Borg Warner about your turbo and the turbine wheel disintegrating. Although we agree that it is a default in the Gamma-Ti turbine wheel, Borg Warner does not and after talking to them it is clear they are not going to cover it under the warranty. We disagreed with them on this conceding that the Gamma-Ti turbine wheel is what has been causing the delay of the EFR’s . They view the turbine wheel damage as impact related and not covered under warrantee. We are happy to still take the warranty steps if you still wish to try but can assure you they will not accept it.

As a seller we like to make it up to you the best we can and offer you a discount on a new EFR at our cost when they come in. We do feel that you might be better off looking into a Garrett GTX-R Dual BB turbo instead and will also offer you a discount on that too. We believe that you will be much happier with the GTX and will enjoy it for years to come.

Please let me know what you would like to do and I will be happy to help you and answer any questions that you may have.

wittyworks 07-24-2012 12:48 PM

Contact full race, get the Borg Warner contact from them, forward that message, and promise to post that all over interwebs if they don't fix you, profit.

Mobius 07-24-2012 01:18 PM

Wow. Not one but two identical failures, and they claim them both to be impact related.

soviet 07-24-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by wittyworks (Post 907339)
Contact full race, get the Borg Warner contact from them, forward that message, and promise to post that all over interwebs if they don't fix you, profit.

Yeah tonight I'll be writing long letters to everyone - Himni, Borg Warner, maybe Full Race. Wish I didn't have to deal with this but apparently I gotta.

shuiend 07-24-2012 01:27 PM

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WINNING!!!!!!!
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343150820

Braineack 07-24-2012 02:21 PM

Garrett: Turbo works, even when your oil pump stops!

99mx5 07-24-2012 02:25 PM

Lars, how can this be winning if it is on the floor?

Braineack 07-24-2012 02:30 PM

stills works dont it? hence my comment.

soviet 07-24-2012 02:36 PM

I'd like to point out that I've driven over 500 miles since this turbine wheel failed - WITHOUT taking any of the turbo parts off. *IF* the failure was caused by a "foreign object", it would have to go through my engine as well.

Braineack 07-24-2012 02:42 PM

they never said the shaft failure wasn't their fault, they said the turbine was impacted... and it was.

it hit your exhaust and the pavement...

soviet 07-25-2012 12:55 AM

peasant mode - activated

The ebay t25-to-vband adapter is, just as expected, a massive, steaming pile of ----. I feel like it was made in Russia. The holes are off, flanges warped. Looks like ----. But $45 shipped or so. Kind-of fits the v-band. Turbo studs are too long so ordered new ones. Also will need to enlarge holes in the adapter.

To-do:
- make a wastegate clip (lost it). I don't really need a wastegate on a SR20 T25 turbo...
- clock it to match the EFR
- wait for oil drain adapter to arrive so I can re-use my oil drain. Hopefully it fits length-wise.
- enlarge turbine holes for my 10mm studs and pray the TSE hardware fits
- enlarge adapter holes and bolt it down
- change my 1-piece hot-side intercooler piping to a ghetto setup with a BOV


http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...d/DSC_0931.jpg
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http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...d/DSC_0934.jpg
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curly 07-25-2012 05:10 AM

Lol, enjoy your own 155hp of fury.

soviet 07-25-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 907774)
Lol, enjoy your own 155hp of fury.

i think sr20 t25 can do more than that... might actually dyno it :D

18psi 07-25-2012 11:19 AM

run ALLOFIT and report the true limit of this turbo?

soviet 07-25-2012 12:00 PM

Yeah, not hooking up the wastegate

skidude 07-25-2012 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 907866)
Yeah, not hooking up the wastegate

Just wiring it shut? This sounds awesome. The first real ALL OF IT I've actually seen...

soviet 07-25-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skidude (Post 907871)
Just wiring it shut? This sounds awesome. The first real ALL OF IT I've actually seen...

lol, sure, why not.
to be honest I will probably still have to wastegate as to not overspin the compressor wheel into pieces and ingest chunks of it.

also, ordered brakes and everything associated with it. baller brakes, are, apparently, expensive
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343234525

curly 07-25-2012 10:59 PM

Are you currently on 1.8 or stock 1.6 brakes?

Always leave a column to subtract any part out money I make from selling existing parts. Makes me feel better.

soviet 07-25-2012 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 908076)
Are you currently on 1.8 or stock 1.6 brakes?

Always leave a column to subtract any part out money I make from selling existing parts. Makes me feel better.

I'm currently on M-tuned corrado "brake kit" front and stock 1.8 rears.
I'm primarily buying these for the piece of mind. Piece of mind is valuable to me when it concerns brakes :)

18psi 07-25-2012 11:42 PM

you wanna go fast

who cares about stopping

only bitches stop

Leafy 07-25-2012 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 908096)
you wanna go fast

who cares about stopping

only bitches stop

Swiss cheese 1.6 brakes all the way.

soviet 07-25-2012 11:53 PM

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Ok first - cross post from the "EFR why yo gotta be a bitch" thread


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 908104)
Ok so faith in EFR - restored.
Got an email today. I emailed BW directly earlier and I guess that -or- this thread got around. I was asked not to post the whole email, so here's the cliff notes:

- BW doesn't deny claims like this.
- Himni never contacted BW and are not a BW partner/distributor. BW doesn't even know who they are, lol

What did I gather from this whole experience with Himni? If you want a "fresh to the market" turbo, buy it from authorized retailers. In this case, from Full Race.

Second... I'm thinking of getting an EFR6758. Thoughts? It has *exact* same form factor as 6258, but flows 5lb/min more.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343274796
vs
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343274796

Spool shouldn't be affected, especially since I'll be rocking a VVT head eventually.

Leafy 07-26-2012 05:54 AM

It looks less resistant to surge. How close did you used to get to the surge limit?

18psi 07-26-2012 08:18 AM

bigger is better :)

Mobius 07-26-2012 03:43 PM

You must go for MOAROFIT.

pdexta 07-26-2012 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 908168)
bigger is better :)

+1. Anytime I've ever been torn between 2 options I end up better off with the bigger/faster/lighter/more expensive one.

soviet 07-26-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 908168)
bigger is better :)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343341332

Braineack 07-27-2012 09:16 AM

I'd stick with the current. you're talking the difference of a 440HP turbo vs a 480HP turbo. Yeah, the 6758 extra output range but it's not the ideal turbo for our motor, and the surge line will be iffy--It's the perfect turbo for high flow and low boost, like a v8.

soviet 07-27-2012 03:50 PM

Surge line you mean the top line, right? Like if at 16lb/min I would hit 260kpa (2.6 pressure ratio) it would surge (possibly, catastrophically)

Leafy 07-27-2012 03:59 PM

Yes.

Braineack 07-27-2012 04:33 PM

surge is the left side of the efficiency map. but yeah that's the idea. especially considering how fast the 63 can spool.

what's the difference in the 6758 vs 6258 besides the compressor? what's the physical size difference in the compressor wheels, 62mm vs 67mm?

ianferrell 07-27-2012 08:10 PM

Dang, I'm totally in line for a 6758... maybe a vvt motor head flows enough better than the surge line is less of an issue? Hmm. I was really just going off the 'one better' theory too.


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