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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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Nice!

I see you're aiming for 5s faster on a 2min courese, isn't that too conservative with +60whp, more aero and more tire? Or am i missing something?
Old Jul 6, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kamel6k
Nice!

I see you're aiming for 5s faster on a 2min courese, isn't that too conservative with +60whp, more aero and more tire? Or am i missing something?
Does it matter?
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by emilio700
Does it matter?
Pure curiosity.Unless you're looking to include an "euro racing series" next season
Old Jul 6, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kamel6k
Pure curiosity.Unless you're looking to include an "euro racing series" next season
I'm curious too. We'll know in a few months. Final lap time doesn't really matter to us. Cost containment and maximum fun factor are the priorities, in that order. On a non spec tire like say a set of 245/40/15 Hoosier A7's and a 320whp map, I think that delta will be more like 10-12s faster on a 2:00 course.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by emilio700
I'm curious too. We'll know in a few months. Final lap time doesn't really matter to us. Cost containment and maximum fun factor are the priorities, in that order. On a non spec tire like say a set of 245/40/15 Hoosier A7's and a 320whp map, I think that delta will be more like 10-12s faster on a 2:00 course.
My comment was based on the two 2min tracks we have in Portugal: Estoril and Algarve. Both are F1/Moto GP tracks

On diferences i see on your two classes, i see more like +10 sec. diference, but problably your NA version cars are way faster than anything i've ever seen, or track design plays a major role here.
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Originally Posted by kamel6k
My comment was based on the two 2min tracks we have in Portugal: Estoril and Algarve. Both are F1/Moto GP tracks

On diferences i see on your two classes, i see more like +10 sec. diference, but problably your NA version cars are way faster than anything i've ever seen, or track design plays a major role here.
Our N/A's are pretty well developed and driven. Perhaps that is why the delta seems small.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 10:58 PM
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While I would never fit in S1 class it would be great to run a race or two with you in ST2. Glad to see you build a monster like this. The platform responds soooo well to power and big rubber!
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Progress. We asked TC to build a cage that would allow a good position for a passenger seat. Note the very rearward main hoop foot on the pax side to accomplish that.





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We have decided to make a focused run at the Thunderhill 25 hrs in E0, mapped from ST3. 2017 rules add 75 lbs for the sequential trans over 2016. So 2375 / 225whp for an actual 10.55 lbs/hp, adjusted to 10.06
We plan to run the WERC series, Western Endurance Racing Championship. That's usually 6 races at Buttonwillow, Sonoma, WSIR and Thunderhill. We might not do every WERC event, just enough to get the car, team dialed and qualify drivers for T25.
Current plan, but it could change as we learn more during the WERC season

245/40/15 R7 on 15x10's
GT-1000 (dual element) rear wing instead of S1 style single element wing
LED lights in OEM housings like we ran in 2012-13
Quaife QBE60G sequential trans
22~24 gal fuel cell in pax floor with large diameter right side filler. T25 pit wall is on pax side

Otherwise it should be pretty much the way we run it in Maxxis Cup. It should out turn and out stop anything else in E0, be a bit slower down the straights but get better mileage. Motor will be safe to 8400 but we'll be shifting at 5500-6000 for the 25.
Powerband will be very Kansas like of course. All the old enduro team is on board. We all miss doing enduros. Much excite.
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That's awesome! Stoked for you guys.

Originally Posted by emilio700
We have decided to make a focused run at the Thunderhill 25 hrs in E0, mapped from ST3. 2017 rules add 75 lbs for the sequential trans over 2016. So 2375 / 225whp for an actual 10.55 lbs/hp, adjusted to 10.06
We plan to run the WERC series, Western Endurance Racing Championship. That's usually 6 races at Buttonwillow, Sonoma, WSIR and Thunderhill. We might not do every WERC event, just enough to get the car, team dialed and qualify drivers for T25.
Current plan, but it could change as we learn more during the WERC season

245/40/15 R7 on 15x10's
GT-1000 (dual element) rear wing instead of S1 style single element wing
LED lights in OEM housings like we ran in 2012-13
Quaife QBE60G sequential trans
22~24 gal fuel cell in pax floor with large diameter right side filler. T25 pit wall is on pax side

Otherwise it should be pretty much the way we run it in Maxxis Cup. It should out turn and out stop anything else in E0, be a bit slower down the straights but get better mileage. Motor will be safe to 8400 but we'll be shifting at 5500-6000 for the 25.
Powerband will be very Kansas like of course. All the old enduro team is on board. We all miss doing enduros. Much excite.
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Yessss
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Originally Posted by jpreston
Yessss
We could use you behind the wall again if you can block out that week.
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 12:30 AM
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Count me in!
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yes!
New for 2017 NASA spec fuel jug. What say?

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I've only heard good things about the Hunsaker jugs, but they are definitely pricey.

Personally I have never used one, but my understanding is that they are the "easy" button when it comes to ~5 gallon fuel jugs. A cheaper jug can be made to work as well if not better with some DIY venting.

Specifying a fuel jug seems kind of lame to me...
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Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
I've only heard good things about the Hunsaker jugs, but they are definitely pricey.

Personally I have never used one, but my understanding is that they are the "easy" button when it comes to ~5 gallon fuel jugs. A cheaper jug can be made to work as well if not better with some DIY venting.

Specifying a fuel jug seems kind of lame to me...
But without kickbacks how does a racing series make money
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We used them this weekend for the WRL enduro. They work well after a few critical mods. I'll email you later today.

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