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Old 05-03-2011, 03:11 PM   #21
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Who are you going to vote for:

the side that gives you free stuff?

the side that tells you to get a job?
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He told me that he left Canada because he was paying through the you know what in taxes, yet some of his family members actual net income was higher than his because they had "lower paying" jobs. He couldn't stand it anymore, and moved south. He also said that the US is on the way of being just as bad, and he can't believe we're letting it happen.
Our tax system is progressive in that the more you make the more you're taxed but there are tiers such that you can't have your net income lowered due to a .25c / hr pay raise. I explain this daily to the elderly who think they are going to go bankrupt from taxes if their investments keep going up.

Toronto in undergoing fairly massive reform under the new mayor. His election slogan was "stop the gravy train" and is working on things like fully privatized garbage collection. I'm not a resident (my grandmother is) and don't know how it's going but I understood they had curbside pickup 3 times a week.

Any Torontonians want to chime in on this?
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:18 PM   #23
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yep, you are only taxed more on the amount you make in that tax bracket.

if you make 155K, you are taxed 23% on 150K and 33% on 5K...whatever the rate actually is.

either way it's 99% too much.
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Nevermind the taxes that the fed, state, county, and local governments levy that people aren't commonly aware of. I don't know how Canada is structured, but I'm sure they are similar to the US in general. I know in the US, once I add up the taxes I pay, it adds up to more than 50% of my income.
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you dont deserve your own money. you know that right?

there are people out there, that have a hard time getting off their new iphone to go look for a job or get educated. you owe it to them.
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What I'm concerned about is the pendulum swing going from the far left that we've got right now, to the far right (fascism). If things deteriorate much further, I wouldn't be surprised if another savior in the reincarnated form of Hitler were to appear. It never stabilizes in the center. Doesn't make the power brokers any money.
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I was speaking "off the record" with a hiring manager at a very large govt contractor (they make fighter jets) and he told me that even though I was a good fit for many of their job openings, and irrespective of education or work history, I'd probably never get hired, explaining, "You're too white and too male. We have plenty of you around already, and we're under a government magnifying glass to ensure equal opportunity for all." < his exact words. I laughed.
Move out of Los Gatos to Salinas. Maybe they'll think you're hispanic.

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yep, you are only taxed more on the amount you make in that tax bracket.

if you make 155K, you are taxed 23% on 150K and 33% on 5K...whatever the rate actually is.

either way it's 99% too much.
So what is your number? How much total tax would you be willing to pay for a minimal level of service from the govt?
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:55 PM   #28
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the Far Right? you mean Wilson and his Fasc...Progressive movement in WWI and you must mean Fasc...Leftist FDR and the New Deal during WWII?
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Old 05-03-2011, 04:02 PM   #29
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So what is your number? How much total tax would you be willing to pay for a minimal level of service from the govt?
I'd be willing to pay the amount in taxes that the majority of the US households pays in federal income taxes currently.

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give me a non circular answer in percent.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:48 AM   #31
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yep, you are only taxed more on the amount you make in that tax bracket.

if you make 155K, you are taxed 23% on 150K and 33% on 5K...whatever the rate actually is.

either way it's 99% too much.
Taxes vary greatly from province to province. But yes... overall too much. I made 52k last year and walked home with something like 42k.

Federal taxes are...

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* 15% on the first $41,544 of taxable income, +
* 22% on the next $41,544 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $41,544 and $83,088), +
* 26% on the next $45,712 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $83,088 and $128,800), +
* 29% of taxable income over $128,800.
Provincial Taxes are...

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Newfoundland and Labrador
7.7% on the first $31,904 of taxable income, +
12.5% on the next $31,903, +
13.3% on the amount over $63,807

Prince Edward Island
9.8% on the first $31,984 of taxable income, +
13.8% on the next $31,985, +
16.7% on the amount over $63,969

Nova Scotia
8.79% on the first $29,590 of taxable income, +
14.95% on the next $29,590, +
16.67% on the next $33,820 +
17.5% on the next $57,000
21% on the amount over $150,000

New Brunswick
9.1% on the first $37,150 of taxable income, +
12.1% on the next $37,150, +
12.4% on the next $46,496, +
14.3% on the amount over $120,796

Ontario
5.05% on the first $37,774 of taxable income, +
9.15% on the next $37,776, +
11.16% on the amount over $75,550

Manitoba
10.8% on the first $31,000 of taxable income, +
12.75% on the next $36,000, +
17.4% on the amount over $67,000

Saskatchewan
11% on the first $40,919 of taxable income, +
13% on the next $75,992, +
15% on the amount over $116,911

Alberta 10% of taxable income

British Columbia 5.06% on the first $36,146 of taxable income, +
7.7% on the next $36,147, +
10.5% on the next $10,708, +
12.29% on the next $17,786, +
14.7% on the amount over $100,787

Yukon
7.04% on the first $41,544 of taxable income, +
9.68% on the next $41,544, +
11.44% on the next $45,712, +
12.76% on the amount over $128,800

Northwest Territories
5.9% on the first $37,626 of taxable income, +
8.6% on the next $37,627, +
12.2% on the next $47,092, +
14.05% on the amount over $122,345

Nunavut
4% on the first $39,612 of taxable income, +
7% on the next $39,612, +
9% on the next $49,576, +
11.5% on the amount over $128,800
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:49 AM   #32
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I voted NDP and he got in. Woot!

At least we have a majority government now though. No more of these BS elections for at least 4 years.
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I voted NDP just because I didn't want Nina Grewal to win in my riding. What a useless c*nt. She has done absolutely nothing in her time in Parliament. Her son was supposed to run, but got a DUI so her husband (who also is a member of Parliament) decided to throw her in his place.

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What about sales tax, property tax, municipal tax, fuel tax, alcohol or tobacco tax, airport and/or rental car taxes, communication taxes? Is there a VAT tax in Canada?
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No VAT, but yes... when you add up everything you pay it's gets ridiculous. We just had "HST" implemented here in BC. We used to have GST and PST which equaled %12 on some items, but others only had GST. So now food, gas, and a bunch of other things that used to be only %7 are now %12.

We also had a carbon tax implemented in 08.
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