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Braineack 06-26-2012 03:09 PM

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cordycord 06-27-2012 12:46 AM

We're a nation of laws, not of men. It doesn't matter where you came from, because your skills and effort determine the outcome--not your family name.

However, we've got jackasses like Robert Rubin who writes his own rules, Presidents like Obama who choose which rules he wants to follow and changes which ones he doesn't like by executive fiat, a congress who is not beholder to rules of us commoners, and a judiciary who increasingly sets rules based on the fashionable ideas of Argentina or the UN.

Rules are supposed to mean something, and not change with the vagaries of the court or the king. The rules limiting government's power in the Constitution are meant to be passed down to the next generation, not taken away from the next generation.

No matter who is in the White House, there's too much power in the Federal government, too much waste, too much size. If they can't live by the rules WE have to follow, then maybe it's time to start over.

olderguy 06-27-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 895847)
We're a nation of laws, not of men. It doesn't matter where you came from, because your skills and effort determine the outcome--not your family name.

However, we've got jackasses like Robert Rubin who writes his own rules, Presidents like Obama who choose which rules he wants to follow and changes which ones he doesn't like by executive fiat, a congress who is not beholder to rules of us commoners, and a judiciary who increasingly sets rules based on the fashionable ideas of Argentina or the UN.

Rules are supposed to mean something, and not change with the vagaries of the court or the king. The rules limiting government's power in the Constitution are meant to be passed down to the next generation, not taken away from the next generation.

No matter who is in the White House, there's too much power in the Federal government, too much waste, too much size. If they can't live by the rules WE have to follow, then maybe it's time to start over.

Well said!

Braineack 06-27-2012 11:33 AM

this video had my loling.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/prot...8vpSS4Ipign7kJ

rleete 06-27-2012 12:16 PM

That is so sad. We need to remove the vote from stupid people.

Braineack 06-27-2012 12:49 PM

yeah before Rove steals them all

cordycord 06-27-2012 01:40 PM

Our tax dollars at work;

Clerk loses job over stand - SentinelSource.com: Local News: electronic benefit transfer, ebt, debit card, cigarette, jackie whiton

Who in Washington would argue that this is a good thing?

Braineack 06-27-2012 01:46 PM

it doesnt matter if it's paid for with EBT or cash. Even if there are spending limits with teh EBT, which clearly there are not, it's still like free money. So had the person used cash for the cigarettes and the EBT for milk, it's all the same. Because that person's milk money would have been used to purchase cigarettes had they otherwise not had the the EBT card with free money on it.

The clerk took it upon him/herself to make up a new store policy and was correctly punished.

The only way to fix this issue is to completely shut down the entire program.

cordycord 06-27-2012 01:49 PM

Whiton said she does not object to using the programs for food assistance, but does not think a person should be able to use public funds to buy cigarettes.

“They can’t even buy toilet paper with the EBT grocery cards but they can buy beer and cigarettes with the EBT cash cards,” Whiton said, “Go figure.”

I agree.

Braineack 06-27-2012 01:50 PM

but it doesnt matter. you understand that right?

lets say you can buy toliet paper with EBT and you cant buy cigarettes and beer.

There's no difference.

So you use the EBT card for the TP and your cash (probably welfare/unemployement) for the beer and it's all evened out.

So long as there's a system to give people free money, regardless of any limits, it's still a broken system and a policital tool to get votes.

cordycord 06-27-2012 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 896119)
but it doesnt matter. you understand that right?

lets say you can buy toliet paper with EBT and you cant buy cigarettes and beer.

There's no difference.

So you use the EBT card for the TP and your cash (probably welfare/unemployement) for the beer and it's all evened out.

Totally understand. The fix is in. The funny part is that the guy buys cigarettes with his gov't card and pays exhorbitant sin taxes. You couldn't make this stuff up.

Braineack 06-27-2012 01:53 PM

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

cordycord 06-27-2012 04:54 PM

Tax cheats got $1.4 billion in stimulus loans - Washington Times

cordycord 06-28-2012 01:20 AM

Florida Judge Smacks Down Holder over Non-Citizens Voting

The chickens are coming home to roost for Mr. Holder...

mgeoffriau 06-28-2012 10:07 AM

Less than 10 minutes till the decision?

http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/

Braineack 06-28-2012 10:11 AM

SUPREME COURT RULES:
Mandate survives as a tax...
Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court...


The Medicaid provision is limited but not invalidated.



:td:

mgeoffriau 06-28-2012 10:12 AM

Roberts folded. Mandate ruled constitutional.

Braineack 06-28-2012 10:13 AM

The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.

Braineack 06-28-2012 10:20 AM

Our precedent demonstrates that Congress had the power to impose the exaction in Section 5000A under the taxing power, and that Section 5000A need not be read to do more than impose a tax. This is sufficient to sustain it.


The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate.

mgeoffriau 06-28-2012 10:21 AM

"The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate."

What? I have a feeling this doesn't mean what I want it to mean.


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