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Braineack 01-11-2018 01:23 PM

not really.



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buffon01 01-11-2018 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1461259)
I thought the author was going to make a connection to the fact that statistically the lower income brackets are responsible for the majority of consumption of sugary drinks and this was a highly regressive tax.

I can confirm... also, I'm offended/s. Why buy water when you can buy a tasty drink.

Joe Perez 01-11-2018 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 1461273)
Why buy water when you can buy a tasty drink.

Oh, my friend, reality is so much more hilarious than fiction... You know how "raw milk" and "raw food" have been trendy for several years now? Get this:



What Are the Dangers of Drinking ‘Raw Water’?

The raw water trend in California is all the rage—but it’s also dangerous.

BY ALISON WILKINSON JANUARY 10, 2018

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0dee05cc4b.png
Mukhande Singh (formerly Christopher Sandborn).

Do you long for the good old days? When times were simpler, the pace was slower. You know, the days before water was treated to eliminate deadly diseases like E.coli and cholera? Well then, Silicon Valley has the trend for you: raw water.

Raw water is unfiltered, untreated, unsterilized spring water that will set you back upwards of $37 a jug. That is, if you can find it. It’s in such high demand in the Silicon Valley area that it’s often out of stock.

“It has a vaguely mild sweetness, a nice smooth mouth feel, nothing that overwhelms the flavor profile,” said Kevin Freeman, a shift manager at Rainbow Grocery in San Francisco’s Mission District, which stocks Live Water’s raw water.

Mukhande Singh (formerly Christopher Sandborn) is the founder of Live Water, which sells raw water in artistic glass globes.
Singh is a long-haired, posture-perfect guru-type who said that “real water” should expire after a few months. “It’s most fresh within one lunar cycle of delivery,” said Singh. “If it sits around too long, it’ll turn green. People don’t even realize that because all the water’s dead, so they never see it turn green.”

Singh described tap water as “toilet water with birth control drugs in them,” along with healthy doses of chloramine and fluoride. “Call me a conspiracy theorist,” said conspiracy-theorist Singh, “but it’s a mind control drug that has no benefit to dental health.” (No evidence has been found that fluoride is a mind-control drug. The American Dental Association, along with numerous scientists, are convinced that fluoride prevents tooth decay based on decades of scientific studies.)

While adherents are lining up to buy into the raw water trend, scientists are calling it dangerous.

“Without water treatment, there’s acute and then chronic risks,” said Dr. Donald Hensrud, the director of the Healthy Living Program at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. These risks include E.coli bacteria, viruses, parasites and carcinogenic compounds that are found in raw water. “There’s evidence all over the world of this, and the reason we don’t have those conditions is because of our very efficient water treatment.”

Bill Marler, a food-safety advocate and a lawyer, agreed. “Almost everything conceivable that can make you sick can be found in water,” he said. For instance, unfiltered water can contain animal feces, which spreads Giardia—an illness characterized by vomiting and diarrhea that results in about 4,600 hospitalizations a year. Hepatitis A can also be spread through untreated water. Hepatitis A resulted in 20 deaths in California alone in 2017.

However, raw water devotees remain devoted—if uncommitted on the proper name for the stuff. “I don’t like ‘raw water’ because it sort of makes people think of raw sewage,” said Daniel Vitalis, host of the podcast, “ReWild Yourself,” which promotes gathering water and hunting for food. “When you say ‘live water,’ that’s going to trigger a lot of people who are into physics and biology.”

Marler is more pointed. “You can’t stop consenting adults from being stupid,” he said. “But we should at least try.”

https://secondnexus.com/science/heal...ilicon-valley/





Everyone clear on this? Some dude in California is selling water for $37 a gallon. Nothing special, literally just plain old water to which, by his own admission (boasting?) he has done nothing at all aside from putting it into a spherical bottle.



Wasn't this part of the plot of a bad Kevin Costner movie several years ago?

z31maniac 01-11-2018 02:02 PM

Scott you're trolling has jumped the shark.

Plz try harder, thank.

Braineack 01-11-2018 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1461278)
Scott you're trolling has jumped the shark.

Plz try harder, thank.

in reference to what?

buffon01 01-11-2018 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1461275)
Oh, my friend, reality is so much more hilarious than fiction... You know how "raw milk" and "raw food" have been trendy for several years now? Get this:



What Are the Dangers of Drinking ‘Raw Water’?

The raw water trend in California is all the rage—but it’s also dangerous.

BY ALISON WILKINSON JANUARY 10, 2018

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0dee05cc4b.png
Mukhande Singh (formerly Christopher Sandborn).

Do you long for the good old days? When times were simpler, the pace was slower. You know, the days before water was treated to eliminate deadly diseases like E.coli and cholera? Well then, Silicon Valley has the trend for you: raw water.

Raw water is unfiltered, untreated, unsterilized spring water that will set you back upwards of $37 a jug. That is, if you can find it. It’s in such high demand in the Silicon Valley area that it’s often out of stock.

“It has a vaguely mild sweetness, a nice smooth mouth feel, nothing that overwhelms the flavor profile,” said Kevin Freeman, a shift manager at Rainbow Grocery in San Francisco’s Mission District, which stocks Live Water’s raw water.

Mukhande Singh (formerly Christopher Sandborn) is the founder of Live Water, which sells raw water in artistic glass globes.
Singh is a long-haired, posture-perfect guru-type who said that “real water” should expire after a few months. “It’s most fresh within one lunar cycle of delivery,” said Singh. “If it sits around too long, it’ll turn green. People don’t even realize that because all the water’s dead, so they never see it turn green.”

Singh described tap water as “toilet water with birth control drugs in them,” along with healthy doses of chloramine and fluoride. “Call me a conspiracy theorist,” said conspiracy-theorist Singh, “but it’s a mind control drug that has no benefit to dental health.” (No evidence has been found that fluoride is a mind-control drug. The American Dental Association, along with numerous scientists, are convinced that fluoride prevents tooth decay based on decades of scientific studies.)

While adherents are lining up to buy into the raw water trend, scientists are calling it dangerous.

“Without water treatment, there’s acute and then chronic risks,” said Dr. Donald Hensrud, the director of the Healthy Living Program at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. These risks include E.coli bacteria, viruses, parasites and carcinogenic compounds that are found in raw water. “There’s evidence all over the world of this, and the reason we don’t have those conditions is because of our very efficient water treatment.”

Bill Marler, a food-safety advocate and a lawyer, agreed. “Almost everything conceivable that can make you sick can be found in water,” he said. For instance, unfiltered water can contain animal feces, which spreads Giardia—an illness characterized by vomiting and diarrhea that results in about 4,600 hospitalizations a year. Hepatitis A can also be spread through untreated water. Hepatitis A resulted in 20 deaths in California alone in 2017.

However, raw water devotees remain devoted—if uncommitted on the proper name for the stuff. “I don’t like ‘raw water’ because it sort of makes people think of raw sewage,” said Daniel Vitalis, host of the podcast, “ReWild Yourself,” which promotes gathering water and hunting for food. “When you say ‘live water,’ that’s going to trigger a lot of people who are into physics and biology.”

Marler is more pointed. “You can’t stop consenting adults from being stupid,” he said. “But we should at least try.”

https://secondnexus.com/science/heal...ilicon-valley/





Everyone clear on this? Some dude in California is selling water for $37 a gallon. Nothing special, literally just plain old water to which, by his own admission (boasting?) he has done nothing at all aside from putting it into a spherical bottle.



Wasn't this part of the plot of a bad Kevin Costner movie several years ago?

I saw that, I think is an excellent plan to make my family back home some cash "Real Raw Water" ;)

One of the most underappreciated things in the US is being able to drink from the faucet and not die lol... or have water from a faucet at that.

Braineack 01-11-2018 02:33 PM

this better?


House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) on Thursday continued to slam the recently passed Republican tax reform bill, calling the wage increases and bonuses "crumbs" during her weekly press briefing.

Walmart was the most recent company to announce a wage increase and bonuses as a result of the sweeping legislation, which included a slashing of the corporate tax rate from 35 to 21 percent.

"A number of companies are attributing the tax bill for being able to give higher wages to their employees as well as being able to give a number of bonuses to their employees. How do you respond to that?" a reporter asked.

Pelosi appeared to be talking about AT&T when she responded by downplaying the bonuses and saying that it was already part of a union contract. She went on to say that the same firm told their employees that they would be laying off 1,500 people and that if they wanted to save their jobs then they would have to work 32 hours per week.

"In terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are giving workers to kind of put the schmooze on is so pathetic. It's so pathetic," Pelosi said.

"I would hope that with their big advantage of bringing money home at a very low rate that they would invest in infrastructure and things, but our experience has been that they will do dividends, do stock buybacks, and things like that. I think it's insignificant," Pelosi added.

This is not the first time that Pelosi has been critical of the Republican tax reform legislation. Pelosi expressed dramatic concern last month about the tax bill, calling it "Armageddon" during a press briefing.

"The debate on health care is life, death. This is Armageddon," Pelosi said. "This is a very big deal, because you know why? There's really a very hard way to come back from this."

She's also called it the worst legislation in the history of Congress.


Joe Perez 01-11-2018 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 1461283)
One of the most underappreciated things in the US is being able to drink from the faucet and not die

As someone who spent a significant portion of their childhood in the West Indies, I can honestly say that this is something which I appreciated every time we came back to the US mainland.

Joe Perez 01-11-2018 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1461278)
Scott you're trolling has jumped the shark.

On the one hand, I too am disappointed by the way that Brainey has been kinda just phoning it in lately with regard to trolling.

On the other hand, this is apparently a real conversation that's happening in our country right now:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0329734db2.png




So, yeah... Better stock up on electrolytes.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...56eebdaa77.png

z31maniac 01-11-2018 03:01 PM

^I'm not even sure what there is to discuss. A popular TV figure losing to another TV figure that is an order of magnitude more liked in this country.

I agree that Oprah would crush him unless the economy just continues to grow at insane rates through the democratic won mid-term.

Braineack 01-11-2018 03:35 PM

do you think shed be a great president if her sponsors stopped giving her free things to hand out?

anyway, democrats won't vote for a billionaire who's not a career politician. :troll:


democrats need some new blood:

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8a&oe=5AE77276

z31maniac 01-11-2018 04:37 PM

I never said anything about whether I think she would do well, merely I think she would be voted in over Trump.

Braineack 01-12-2018 01:13 PM

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...05&oe=5AF8B041

buffon01 01-12-2018 01:23 PM

Can confirm, my country of birth is a shithole. Otherwise, my family wouldn't have left. Most of immigrants I know left due to same reasons.

The real kicker is the previous concern being raised for those covered by temp status to go back to high crime, extremely corrupt and impoverish cities...

Braineack 01-12-2018 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 1461448)
The real kicker is the previous concern being raised for those covered by temp status to go back to high crime, extremely corrupt and impoverish cities...

or miss it so much, they fight hard to make this country more of the same...

buffon01 01-12-2018 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1461449)
or miss it so much, they fight hard to make this country more of the same...

That seems to be a curious thing, that I don't grasp the motive behind yet. During the election I asked some friends the same question... no real good answer other than something a greedy 1% blah blah

Seems to be a middle-child-generation's nostalgia of things being great, then quickly turning bad, and for one reason or another not being able to get back to that "height". Forgetting that things can be so much worse where we came from.

In my case, I've made the effort to better my situation and it has worked. For some friends it hasn't played out that way, and they definitely feel the bern.

olderguy 01-12-2018 02:49 PM

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Joe Perez 01-12-2018 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 1461448)
Can confirm, my country of birth is a shithole. Otherwise, my family wouldn't have left. Most of immigrants I know left due to same reasons.




Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1461449)
or miss it so much, they fight hard to make this country more of the same...

Speaking only for myself (and also literally 100% of all Cuban refugees and their descendants), none of us want a communist government in the US. You know, because of the whole "the communists took our homes, nationalized our farms and businesses, and put quite a lot of us against a wall and shot us when we tried to resist" thing.



Related, for the ultra-libertarian folks: taxation isn't theft. Having your factory seized by the military at gunpoint in order to realize the dream of a tax-free (socialist) society is theft.

buffon01 01-12-2018 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1461473)
Speaking only for myself (and also literally 100% of all Cuban refugees and their descendants), none of us want a communist government in the US. You know, because of the whole "the communists took our homes, nationalized our farms and businesses, and put quite a lot of us against a wall and shot us when we tried to resist" thing.

Related, for the ultra-libertarian folks: taxation isn't theft. Having your factory seized by the military at gunpoint in order to realize the dream of a tax-free (socialist) society is theft.

IDK about 100% Joe, spent some time in Miami lately?

Braineack 01-12-2018 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1461473)
Speaking only for myself (and also literally 100% of all Cuban refugees and their descendants), none of us want a communist government in the US. You know, because of the whole "the communists took our homes, nationalized our farms and businesses, and put quite a lot of us against a wall and shot us when we tried to resist" thing.



Related, for the ultra-libertarian folks: taxation isn't theft. Having your factory seized by the military at gunpoint in order to realize the dream of a tax-free (socialist) society is theft.

that's cause you cubans are awesome. im still flabergasted that jewish people are democrats -- it like doesnt add up.


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