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Simple solution. Non vaccinated kids are not allowed in any public buildings. No libraries, schools, hospitals, etc. If you want to play outside of the rules of society, you play all the way outside.
Simple solution. Non vaccinated kids are not allowed in any public buildings. No libraries, schools, hospitals, etc. If you want to play outside of the rules of society, you play all the way outside.
You're a ****!
(I think... did I do that right? Can never remember which way this works. Scott, you're a ****, am I doing this correctly?)
also, five men were actually arrested breaking into the watergate, which sparked the investigation. unlike the mueller investigation, the democratic party paid for a baseless report against a political foe which sparked the investigation.
Not sure it's so baseless. Take for example the fact that the Dutch AIVD (our CIA, basically), also has shown Russian hackers targeting the US. Seems enough to warrant an investigation, I guess.
What specific info did Dutch AVID find and provide to the U.S. to omit coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of Hillary Clinton?
Shouldn't an investigation pursue all angles? Wouldn't that suggest some sort of evidence that leads them to believe there was coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump and not the Hillary Campaign? If it didn't come from the Dutch AVID, where did it come from?
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What specific info did Dutch AVID find and provide to the U.S. to omit coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of Hillary Clinton?
Shouldn't an investigation pursue all angles? Wouldn't that suggest some sort of evidence that leads them to believe there was coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump and not the Hillary Campaign? If it didn't come from the Dutch AVID, where did it come from?
I'm not privy to all the information that was shared - as intelligence information obviously isn't public.
I think there's two questions:
- Should Trump be investigated; and
- Should Hillary be investigated
I'm honestly not too surprised that the investigation is focused on Trump. After all, the difference between him and Hillary is that Hillary is just an average citizen now, and Trump is the leader of the most powerful country in the world.
Investigations don't come out of thin air. They can certain come of happenstance/good luck/right-place-at-the-right-time, but they are never (well shouldn't be) baseless.
So what exactly led the investigation to pursue the Trump campaign specifically? Why not the RNC? Why not the Tea Party? Why the Trump Campaign specifically?
Should every president-elect simply be investigated?
If there is substantive reason to suspect them of a major crime, or of being unfit to hold the office of the president, then yes, I think that would be reasonable.
We seem to be faced mostly with having to determine which crimes are not sufficiently major, and which reasons are not sufficiently substantive.
Originally Posted by Braineack
Investigations don't come out of thin air...
You'd have really hated being a thought-criminal during the time of the Spanish Inquisition, which, of course, was expected by no one.
If there is substantive reason to suspect them of a major crime, or of being unfit to hold the office of the president, then yes, I think that would be reasonable.
We seem to be faced mostly with having to determine which crimes are not sufficiently major, and which reasons are not sufficiently substantive.
What lead to the Trump campaign being suspect of a major crime?
What lead to the Trump campaign being suspect of a major crime?
Here's a backgrounder from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence which is specific to the sub-segment of the Mueller investigation which concerns Russian efforts to undermine the democratic process in the US: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf That was the origin of the current witch-hunt.
As for how the investigation grew to include financial crimes, this is just guess, but I'm going to say that it was probably when several members of the campaign were accused of various major felonies, some of which were revealed during, and directly related to, the original investigation. (eg: that Trump's campaign manager was secretly employed by a pro-Russian political party in an ex-Soviet state, which he deliberately obscured.)
Here's a backgrounder from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence which is specific to the sub-segment of the Mueller investigation which concerns Russian efforts to undermine the democratic process in the US: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf That was the origin of the current witch-hunt.
So nothing specific, just that Russia favored Trump on some shitty TV show no one watches. cool.
What in this report would lead to the specific investigation of coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia?
What in this report would lead to the specific investigation of coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia?
Ok, one last time, here is a probable timeline:
1: Office of National Intelligence tasked with investigating Russian influence into US presidential election.
2: Investigators begin looking into all activities between US political figures and Russian interests in Europe & Asia.
3: Investigation discovers that Trump's campaign manager was, at the same time, also secretly an employee of a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party which paid him millions of dollars, and used him to channel an unknown amount of money into US lobbying and campaign efforts.
If the President's campaign manager being simultaneously employed by a foreign government for the purpose of funneling Russian money into the US presidential election isn't potentially suspicious enough to merit wanting to take a closer look, then, like I said, I hope you're on my jury if I'm ever tried for a serious crime.
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