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Joe Perez 04-18-2019 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by good2go (Post 1531444)
^^What a racist piece of work that was too; not a whitey to be seen in the whole thing, save for the big bad oil men and the climate scientists. :rolleyes:

White Guilt and virtue signalling are a real things among some people.

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Joe Perez 04-18-2019 01:23 PM

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Joe Perez 04-18-2019 02:42 PM

If anybody wants to read the full report, here it is: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

I've skimmed it briefly, and am amused by the fact that this is probably the first official report into an investigation of the President and his associates which exhaustively cites Facebook and Twitter as primary sources.


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wherestheboost 04-18-2019 04:52 PM

Pardon my ignorance...but to be exonerated, you would need to be proven guilty first (with evidence, trial, etc.), correct? There's no exoneration without prior guilt...? So why is everyone fullblowing the whole "it doesn't say he's exonerated!!!" bit?

Joe Perez 04-18-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wherestheboost (Post 1531475)
So why is everyone fullblowing the whole "it doesn't say he's exonerated!!!" bit?

Your question seems to presuppose that people mindlessly re-blogging things which they do not understand, and exhibiting a careless disregard for the English language, is literally* a unique phenomenon.

* = Figuratively.

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wherestheboost 04-18-2019 05:35 PM

xD

Joe Perez 04-18-2019 07:26 PM

Of course, one might also observe that the President had already been tried and convicted in the Court of Public Opinion, so perhaps exoneration is appropriate in that context.

A bit of digging suggests that the word "exonerate" can be used to indicate clearing from accusation, not merely conviction.

wherestheboost 04-18-2019 07:42 PM

But then at that point... they're pretty much saying... "He still hasn't cleared his name from being accused of doing something worthy of impeachment. Therefore we must impeach." #accusationisallthatisneeded

Joe Perez 04-18-2019 07:52 PM

To impeach, you must have a specific criminal offense with which to charge. Specifically, "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" according to the US constitution.

Collaborating with a foreign government in order to alter the outcome of a US election would definitely fall into that container, but if a two year FBI investigation has failed to produce any substantive evidence of the President himself (not his agents) participating in such behavior, it's difficult to imagine that a Senate hearing would produce much else, especially given the present Republican majority.

If the democrats want Trump out of the White House, they're going to have to do it the old fashioned way: at the voting booth. It will be interesting to see who winds up floating to the top of the primary.

wherestheboost 04-18-2019 08:00 PM

Indeed. It'd be nice to get voter ID enacted - that along with getting rid of absentee balloting. Seems like the amount of resources to make sure that's happening "correctly" in its current iteration isn't enough. Come to the polling booth.

triple88a 04-19-2019 02:36 AM

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cordycord 04-19-2019 03:39 AM

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Climate change jokes never get old. ;)]

hector 04-19-2019 07:38 AM

We hate those tyrannical snowplows down here in South Florida. My parents tell me the ones in Cuba were even worse.

z31maniac 04-19-2019 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by wherestheboost (Post 1531510)
Indeed. It'd be nice to get voter EDUCATION enacted - that along with getting rid of absentee balloting. Seems like the amount of resources to make sure that's happening "correctly" in its current iteration isn't enough. Come to the polling booth.

I'd prefer, citizen or not, that you must show some basic competency and understanding of the Constitution and fiscal and social policy and their effects on the nation.

Braineack 04-19-2019 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1531454)


The media disagrees; we were always at war with obstruction...

Braineack 04-19-2019 09:38 AM

try not to laugh:



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“You know who else was concerned about leaks? Richard Nixon.”
— CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin, explaining that President Trump’s concern about leaks could be considered evidence of his criminal intent to obstruct justice, since Richard Nixon was also concerned about leaks.


Braineack 04-19-2019 09:41 AM

for joe:




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Braineack 04-19-2019 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1531509)
To impeach, you must have a specific criminal offense with which to charge. Specifically, "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" according to the US constitution.

Collaborating with a foreign government in order to alter the outcome of a US election would definitely fall into that container, but if a two year FBI investigation has failed to produce any substantive evidence of the President himself (not his agents) participating in such behavior, it's difficult to imagine that a Senate hearing would produce much else, especially given the present Republican majority.

If the democrats want Trump out of the White House, they're going to have to do it the old fashioned way: at the voting booth. It will be interesting to see who winds up floating to the top of the primary.


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cordycord 04-19-2019 09:54 AM

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Nixon-era Doonesbury cartoon...fictional.
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Email between workers who manage HRC's personal server.....real.

Joe Perez 04-19-2019 10:28 AM

I came across this earlier while searching for Grammar Kitten. It's not relevant to the Mueller probe or anything else of current significance, it's just a random political photo which I found amusing.

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