Bajingo

I'm kinda jealous, our politicians don't even bother with resigning.

Joe Perez

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I've heard nothing at all of this.

Are more serious things afoot?

chiefmg

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FAKE NEWS!! I am shocked that a gentleman with your media affiliation could even contemplate such a spurious post. ;D

If I may digress back into the war is hell train of thought, my maternal grandfather was in WWII. He never talked about his service. I do know from research that he was in from 1943-45. He was older (mid-30's IIRC) when he enlisted and as near as we know from the one picture of him in uniform, he was in a Hellcat tank destroyer unit. His unit apparently liberated a concentration camp and he had pictures of what they saw. The only way I know about this is from my aunt via my sister, who told her that our mom had come across the pictures and was caught looking at them. Whatever he said was strong enough that she never even mentioned it to us kids. My oldest spent six months in Iraq with his Guard unit doing convoy escort duties around six years ago. He has never talked about what he saw either. That is the side of conflict you never consider when you are young.

hector

Oh it was definitely a war and many Americans gave their lives, along with many other countries involved. And for all the years they were involved and all the lives lost and all the spending and damage done, the US Congress never formally declared war. Maybe it had something to do with the Soviets being involved.

Braineack

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Braineack

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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...-that-matters/

Joe Perez

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I find it interesting to watch as the Republicans pivot between:

1: "See, we told you the election was rigged,"

2: "The election isn't over," and

3: "See, we told you that Covid was a Democrat conspiracy to rig the election."


My feeling is that some variant of the above is going to dominate the political discourse on social media for the next few weeks. Possibly months, if some more lurid theory does not arise.

Braineack

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We had to hear about Russia for 4 years. It took 37 days to decide FL in the courts -- give us a few days here, bro...

The election is still ongoing.

I believe about a month ago I said Nov 7 was going to be the day the virus ended. I wasn't wrong apparently.

Bajingo

Come on Joe you know damn well that the Democrats played covid for all it was worth against Trump.

Joe Perez

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Of course they did. If the rice harvest in Singapore has been unusually poor, Nanci Pelosi would have blamed that on Trump as well.

But a strategy isn't a conspiracy. That's what annoys me. People with red hats running around shouting "Conspiracy!" act to discredit all conservatives.

Bajingo

It fits the definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy

would you prefer we start using the term colluding?
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Joe Perez

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Serious question: If the marketing department of a company forms a plan to produce a TV commercial, and then have that commercial aired on various TV stations, with the goal of wanting to make you buy a product, and several different people and companies all act together to make this happen, would you refer to that as a conspiracy?

Joe Perez

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I think you may find that facts do not support that latter assertion.

The story today is that the virus is far from over, and that unfortunately, we still have to deal with two more months of anti-leadership from Trump, during which time billions will die, before the glorious new democratic president can cure the disease.

Bajingo

yes that would be a conspiracy.

Braineack

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I trust the facts:

Joe Perez

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That's a new direction for you.

Joe Perez

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This isn't untrue:

z31maniac

We have to protect the Petrodollar. Pure and simple.

Without it, The Great Depression would look very desirable.

Joe Perez

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This has been mothering me all day.

Pretty much every dictionary definition of conspiracy, including the one you linked to (click through to the definition on "conspiring"), explicitly involves an unlawful or treacherous act, and an element of secrecy.

Neither of those tests are met by openly blaming everything up to and including the weather on a sitting President. It certainly was not done in secret, and one might argue (based on one's political leanings) that slandering the President is in some way nefarious, it is far from unlawful or treacherous. The standards for political speech are extremely liberal.

Joe Perez

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