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Old 11-13-2020, 02:06 PM
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So, the regular influenza was engineered in a lab as a weapon to be used against political opponents of the state?
I believe this is definitely a motive of many nations. It is a global market, a competition and there are many that would like to have the US's economy.
Ok, so this may be hard for you to appreciate:

Reliable documentation of influenza goes back to the 14th or 15th century, depending upon which sources you believe to be credible. And Hippocrates, who is considered to be the father of modern medicine, described the symptoms of the flu in 412 B.C at Perinthus in North Greece, although at that time, the mechanism of action of viral infections was not known.

It's also interesting to note that the trend of a pandemic originating within central Asia and then spreading westwards into Europe and Africa was commonplace then as well.


At that time, there were no virology laboratories.

There was also no United States.
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Old 11-13-2020, 02:48 PM
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You missed the point. The recent influenza infections of approximately the past 40yrs have thought to come from the rural villages in china. There have been many that have contemplated that it could be on purpose. Its a theory and maybe it is plausible that covid was on purpose.

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Ok, so this may be hard for you to appreciate:

Reliable documentation of influenza goes back to the 14th or 15th century, depending upon which sources you believe to be credible. And Hippocrates, who is considered to be the father of modern medicine, described the symptoms of the flu in 412 B.C at Perinthus in North Greece, although at that time, the mechanism of action of viral infections was not known.

It's also interesting to note that the trend of a pandemic originating within central Asia and then spreading westwards into Europe and Africa was commonplace then as well.


At that time, there were no virology laboratories.

There was also no United States.
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Dammit. I just realized that LeoNA is the same guy I had to ban over in the "California" thread.

I was kind of enjoying him. He reminded me of JasonC, albeit not quite as intelligent. I changed him to a temp ban, so maybe he'll come back and try to convince us that, despite the fact that a trend has existed for at least the past 500 years of pandemic viral infections originating in central Asia and then spreading along established trade routes towards the west, the fact that it's still happening exactly the same way here in the 21st century is clear evidence that it's suddenly the result of Chinese virological engineering aimed at influencing politics in the US.
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It's extremely suspicious that a new virus originates from a city that has a Institute dedicated to studying that type of virus. I'm on the idea that they made it and accidently released it but played to their full advantage after that.


Just a reminder, **** China
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Ok, so this may be hard for you to appreciate:

Reliable documentation of influenza goes back to the 14th or 15th century, depending upon which sources you believe to be credible. And Hippocrates, who is considered to be the father of modern medicine, described the symptoms of the flu in 412 B.C at Perinthus in North Greece, although at that time, the mechanism of action of viral infections was not known.

It's also interesting to note that the trend of a pandemic originating within central Asia and then spreading westwards into Europe and Africa was commonplace then as well.


At that time, there were no virology laboratories.

There was also no United States.

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Defund the police? Then will people just live and let live? I submit this, by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No 15:

“Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint.”

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The concept of "police" has been developed by many different cultures throughout history, independently of one another.


Unrelated:


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Originally Posted by DNMakinson
Defund the police? Then will people just live and let live? I submit this, by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No 15:

“Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint.”

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The following appeared in the NYT Digest on Tuesday. Guess we can't listen to what Hamilton said any more. Any statues of him to pull down? Probably have to change the money now too.

"In the paper, titled “‘As Odious and Immoral a Thing’: Alexander Hamilton’s Hidden History as an Enslaver,” Jessie Serfilippi, a historical interpreter at the mansion, examines letters, account books and other documents. Her conclusion — about Hamilton, and what she suggests is wishful thinking on the part of many of his modern-day admirers — is blunt.
“Not only did Alexander Hamilton enslave people, but his involvement in the institution of slavery was essential to his identity, both personally and professionally,” she writes.
“It is vital,” she adds, “that the myth of Hamilton as ‘the Abolitionist Founding Father’ end.”
The evidence cited in the paper, which was published online last month, is not entirely new. But Serfilippi’s forceful case has caught the eye of historians, particularly those who have questioned what they see as his inflated antislavery credentials."
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Give the Media a mm:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cession-436575

Trump edges closer to conceding the election
The president tweets: “He won because the Election was Rigged.”

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump...ns-was-rigged/

Trump Concedes Joe Biden ‘Won’ Before Baselessly Claiming ‘The Election Was Rigged’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...arch-live-news

Trump tweets that Biden 'won' – but makes baseless fraud claim

just wait for that Krakken.


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where's the lie?




also not reported: Trump fired that Esper because he was holding up bringing troops back home...
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Originally Posted by Godless Commie
So, the number of voting individuals may vary from one year to another for various reasons.
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Comparing numbers between elections would be meaningful only if the number of individuals casting a vote was the same in both cases.

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Originally Posted by Braineack
(First meme)
Both statements are true. Neither contradicts the other.



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This is just my opinion, but as a former New Yorker, I wouldn't be surprised if the entire NYS discrep was from just Manhattan alone, or perhaps a combination of NYC and the near-northern burbs and Long Island.

A lot of people who reside in those regions are people who, while socially liberal, tend to make sound financial decisions. They were fairly excited by Clinton in 2016, and that drove a lot of people to the polls. By the same token, a lot of these folks just weren't terribly excited by Biden.

In the other states, easy. Those are places with lots of entitlement spending, lots of poverty, etc. So a socialist-leaning candidate would tend to draw a lot of people to the polls.
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Old 11-17-2020, 02:13 PM
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This is just my opinion,
This is just my opinion, but, it could never mean fraud. ever. that's simply not possible.

mail-in ballots are the most secure method of voting. there's no way to fake a mail-in ballot. there's no way to destroy them. there's no way to forge them.

impossbru!

I think it's time we all just took a step back, and accepted that Joe Biden is the most popular presidential candidate in history -- we can't analyze the data, we must heal.

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This is just my opinion, but, it could never mean fraud. ever. that's simply not possible.
I tend not to use words like "never" or "impossible," as very few things are actually that binary.

I mean, even if we were talking about whether Kia could ever produce a car which people who can afford something other than a Kia would want to purchase, I wouldn't say "never," because who'd have thought, back in the 80s, that VW would be able to so completely embrace the art of poorly manufacturing overly-complicated and expensive cars? But they pulled it off.

If you look at the history of government projects, especially those involving cooperation between multiple agencies at the county, state and federal levels, it seems improbable that a coordinated effort to fraudulently throw the results of an election could happen successfully.
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If you look at the history of government projects, especially those involving cooperation between multiple agencies at the county, state and federal levels, it seems improbable that a coordinated effort to fraudulently throw the results of an election could happen successfully.
yes or no: is government riddled with fraud?


should i turn this thread into a dump of ever story about fraud this election cycle? cause it will fill up fast...

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...eople/2464168/

Pair Charged With Voter Fraud Allegedly Submitted Thousands of Fraudulent Applications on Behalf of Homeless People

The two men were charged in a 41-count criminal complaint.

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I don't get the whole mail-in ballot topic at all. I think I have been voting by mail for close to 20 years now. Here in Colorado, something like 99% of the ballots cast are through the mail. When I found out the rest of the country wasn't doing this, I was like WTF?
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