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@samnavy, can you comment as to the veracity of the following
In my last command, with a relatively tiny active duty complement, we had two Petty Officers who were drag queens. It was not a problem. It was wholeheartedly supported by the command and was generally a positive. These two guys were steadfast professionals on duty and not what I would call "obviously gay" when in uniform, but I just can't explain how much "not an issue" it was. It just wasn't an issue in any sense of using the word "issue". I'm Facebook friends with both of those guys and I've got the first round next time we get together. "Don't ask, don't tell" was a bad thing in the past and lost us a lot of solid talent, but being openly gay in the service now is fully accepted.
Personally, I have no interest in seeing a show, but I also pass on tractor pulls because "meh"... neither are interesting to me. I think I'm like most people.
It's definitely something for Rep vs. Dem to fight about and keep the rest of us slogging through the simulation. This will not help recruiting in any way... period. I can't do anything but hurt numbers and damage the reputation of the Navy, especially in the eyes of people who really like tractor pulls. Not choosing recruiting or retention themes that highlight the warrior nature of our military sends a message that I can't put my finger on... dipping deep into the well of wokeness.
I know a few quietly gay professional warriors who just want to do their jobs like everybody else and have zero attention drawn to what they do in their private lives. They are utterly fed up with the constant woke bombardment that highlights them at every turn although it doesn't stop them from exclusively voting blue.
Lemme put it this way... the Chinese are about 10 years from being able to do anything they want on the world stage and the US will have zero counter. We will not be able to stand up to them economically, politically, or militarily. But, drag queens.
"Don't ask, don't tell" was a bad thing in the past and lost us a lot of solid talent, but being openly gay in the service now is fully accepted.
DA/DT was bad policy, and I believe it was an afterthought to accommodate president Clinton's desire to allow homosexuals to serve openly. You cannot just brush aside the sworn affidavit I mentioned a couple of posts ago. It was illegal for admitted homosexuals to serve back then, although we all knew there were gays in the military. The military hates (at least back then) liars and thieves. There was a running joke (way back when) that it was easy to get out if you wanted to. You just went to your commander and said "I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is I'm gay. The good news is, I think you're cute" and you'd be discharged quite soon. Once Clinton had committed his support, someone must have pointed out that active duty homosexuals couldn't just come out of the closet and state they have been part of a same sex marriage for years and would now like base housing. Those people lied on a sworn affidavit. DA/DT was the only way forward, as bad a policy as it was.
IIRC, many of the talent we lost were people who didn't adhere to the "don't tell" part.
I don't see anything positive coming out of the Navy's use of a drag queen for recruitment, although I'd be interested in hearing other opinions. For every person that would say to themselves, there's finally a service that accepts me for what I am (even though I don't accept myself for what I am), there will be dozens more, especially women, that decide against joining. I can see the recruiting posters... "Ladies, now you can go to sea and shower with a man that believes he's a woman".
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Lemme put it this way... the Chinese are about 10 years from being able to do anything they want on the world stage and the US will have zero counter. We will not be able to stand up to them economically, politically, or militarily. But, drag queens.
Breaking news: some people agree with a recent decision made by government, while others are shocked and appalled by it, comparing their government to a very bad one.
Not choosing recruiting or retention themes that highlight the warrior nature of our military sends a message that I can't put my finger on... dipping deep into the well of wokeness.
Military leadership should be spending more time reading Sun Tzu than they do the WaPo and NYT, but it seems like the opposite is true.
Military leadership should be spending more time reading Sun Tzu than they do the WaPo and NYT, but it seems like the opposite is true.
An "in real life" friend of mine (ok, the wife of my old college roommate) is a professional Diversity & Inclusion trainer. She works for the US Govt, and advises government agencies (including the military) on, well... how to be diverse and inclusive.
They (the couple) are everything you'd expect just from what I've just told you. She is morbidly obese and her whole online personality is defined by her struggles with "neurodiversity," the fact that she is a D&I expert, and the fact that they recently adopted a black child. He (the husband) is a textbook beta male with no personality of his own.
Anyway... the US Military regularly employs her services. Which mostly seem to consist of telling them that they need to hire more queers and retards, as that's what makes an organization "inclusive."
And, just like with any large corporation, that then becomes official policy.
Does it matter that this does not contribute to the bottom line? Or perhaps that it is even detrimental to the overall morale and productivity of the company?
Of course not. The primary goal of diversity & inclusion is not to improve the functionality of the organization, it's to satisfy requirements for diversity and inclusion.
Is it any surprise, then, that the DoD is acting in ways which do not increase their effectiveness at doing military things?
The company I work for has always been one of the best for diversity, because they always hired the best people, irregardfull of whatever social box they fit in. It worked great for everyone. I never thought about someone being a "diversity hire". A couple of years ago they embraced D.E.I. The only reason equity is necessary is if you don't hire the best people in the first place. Companies are finally starting to realize why there is a D an I and an E in the acronym.
I understand that you are proud of your white ancestry. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, and it is important to celebrate the accomplishments of your ancestors. However, it is important to remember that not all white people have the same experiences or share the same values. There is a long history of racism and discrimination in the United States, and it is important to be aware of this history and to work to create a more just and equitable society for all people.
Here are some ways to celebrate your white ancestry without promoting racism or white supremacy:
Learn about your family history and the contributions of your ancestors to society.
Celebrate your cultural heritage through food, music, art, and other traditions.
Get involved in your community and work to make it a better place for everyone.
Stand up against racism and discrimination whenever you see it.
It is important to remember that we are all human beings, and we should treat each other with respect and dignity, regardless of our race or ethnicity.
I'm proud of my black ancestry
I am glad to hear that you are proud of your black ancestry. Black people have a rich and vibrant history and culture, and there is much to be proud of. Here are just a few examples of the many accomplishments of black people:
Black people have made significant contributions to science, medicine, art, music, literature, and other fields.
Black people have fought for and won many important civil rights victories, including the abolition of slavery, the end of segregation, and the right to vote.
Black people have made significant contributions to the economic, social, and political fabric of the United States.
I encourage you to learn more about your black ancestry and to celebrate the many accomplishments of black people. You should be proud of your heritage!
Precisely what significant contributions have Black people made to science, medicine, art, music, literature, and other fields?
Black people have made significant contributions to science, medicine, art, music, literature, and other fields. Here are just a few examples:
Science:
Percy Julian was a chemist who developed synthetic steroids and other drugs that are still used today.
Garrett Morgan invented the traffic signal, the gas mask, and the fire hydrant.
Mae Jemison was the first black woman to travel in space.
Medicine:
Daniel Hale Williams was the first black surgeon to perform open-heart surgery.
Charles Drew developed the first blood bank.
Patricia Bath invented the laserphaco probe, which is used to treat cataracts.
Art:
Romare Bearden was a painter, printmaker, and collage artist.
Jacob Lawrence was a painter who created a series of paintings about the history of African Americans.
Elizabeth Catlett was a sculptor and printmaker.
Music:
Duke Ellington was a jazz composer and bandleader.
Ella Fitzgerald was a jazz singer.
Nina Simone was a jazz singer and civil rights activist.
Literature:
Toni Morrison was a Nobel Prize-winning author who wrote novels such as "Beloved" and "Song of Solomon."
James Baldwin was a novelist, essayist, and playwright.
Maya Angelou was a poet, memoirist, and civil rights activist.
These are just a few examples of the many contributions that black people have made to science, medicine, art, music, literature, and other fields. Black people have made significant contributions to all aspects of human society, and their contributions should be celebrated and recognized.
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