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The government circumvent the rules better than any rich boogieman. They play a mean Ponzi scheme, devalue the dollar at will, decide which corporations and even business sectors live and die. And at the end of the day it's all based on who can grease their palms the best. I don't begrudge anyone who tries to protect as much of their assets from the government as is legally possible.
Better yet, they decry a mandate that has no chance to pass constitutional muster. Businesses--under threat of large legal penalties--start complying early. Federal Courts strike down these orders from the Monarchy after some time passes, but the Monarchy got their way anyway as everyone already geared up to be compliant.
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I can't vote this high enough ( i mean technically I could cheat and go into the admin panel and do it, but the point was made here ).
Better yet, they decry a mandate that has no chance to pass constitutional muster. Businesses--under threat of large legal penalties--start complying early. Federal Courts strike down these orders from the Monarchy after some time passes, but the Monarchy got their way anyway as everyone already geared up to be compliant.
Better yet, they decry a mandate that has no chance to pass constitutional muster. Businesses--under threat of large legal penalties--start complying early. Federal Courts strike down these orders from the Monarchy after some time passes, but the Monarchy got their way anyway as everyone already geared up to be compliant.
Not everything is about corporations and those who dabble in the speculative exchange / commodities markets. Some of us ordinary folk are still down here.
#183
Your apathy towards the plight of the ordinary US citizen, who finds themselves increasingly enslaved by those who are ostensibly elected to represent them, has angered the Baharnoth.
Not everything is about corporations and those who dabble in the speculative exchange / commodities markets. Some of us ordinary folk are still down here.
Not everything is about corporations and those who dabble in the speculative exchange / commodities markets. Some of us ordinary folk are still down here.
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Was that a question? Or a statement? Or... (?)
It's ok if you need time to sober up. God knows we've all been there.
#185
Perhaps you got confused/excited with the introduction of a Furry. Hey, I don't judge.
#187
Context is always appropropriate: Did Biden raise cost of insulin in his first week?
The Biden Administration’s regulatory freeze does not impact a new insulin discount that took effect Jan. 1. That discount, announced last year by President Trump and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, allows seniors who sign up for an enhanced Medicare plan to receive a 30-day supply of insulin for $35. The discount requires seniors to join a Medicare drug plan (Part D) or Medicare Advantage Plan (with drug coverage) that participates in the insulin savings model, so only those individuals who are willing to pay for the enhanced coverage are eligible to receive the $35 price cap.
So we can verify the Biden administration did freeze a new rule that would mandate community health centers pass along insulin discounts to their patients.
But we can also verify that multiple claims that President Biden is increasing the price of insulin are false. The 60-day regulatory freeze is not causing the price of insulin to increase at community health centers, and there is no evidence to suggest the rule would further lower insulin costs at those facilities, which already offer deep discounts on medication.
So we can verify the Biden administration did freeze a new rule that would mandate community health centers pass along insulin discounts to their patients.
But we can also verify that multiple claims that President Biden is increasing the price of insulin are false. The 60-day regulatory freeze is not causing the price of insulin to increase at community health centers, and there is no evidence to suggest the rule would further lower insulin costs at those facilities, which already offer deep discounts on medication.
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Context is always appropropriate: Did Biden raise cost of insulin in his first week?
On a wholly unrelated note:
Apparently I have been named as a plaintiff in a mass-tort suit.
I was not consulted prior to the filing of this suit, and have only now been given an opportunity to opt out of it, by filing a form and mailing it at my own expense to the office of the counsel for the plaintiffs.
If I do not do this, then my name will be used as an aggrieved party in the aforementioned lawsuit, despite the fact that I have no desire to pursue such a course of action, and would not have initiated it on my own behalf.
I find this concept fascinating.
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So... Ted Cruz...
I don't hate the guy. I don't respect him, but I don't hate him. That's pretty close to "neutral."
He's really gone and shown the true colors of modern US politics today. I'm not going to cite a specific source, because that's the sort of thing that makes people say "that's a fake source," so just fire up the search engine of your choice if you doubt what I'm saying here.
Mr. Cruz has essentially stated that, if Republicans regain control of the house in the next election, that they will more than likely impeach Biden, regardless of whether there's a good reason to do so or not, purely out of spite for the Democrat-led house impeaching Trump twice.
Literally.
“The Democrats weaponized impeachment. They used it for partisan purposes to go after Trump because they disagreed with him. The more you weaponize it and turn it into a partisan cudgel — you know, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”
There's a lot of truth in the above. Federal politics has become a competitive sport, in which We the People no longer really matter. What counts is harming the "other" party and their figureheads as much as possible.
"Because the Democrats decided this is just another tool in the partisan war chest, I think there’s a real risk that that turnabout will be fair play … whether it’s justified or not.”
There we go with the true colors. Whether it's justified or not, we're going to impeach "their" president because they impeached "ours."
“I said at the time, when we have a Democratic president and a Republican House, you can expect an impeachment proceeding. That’s not how impeachment is meant to work. But I think the Democrats crossed that line. There’ll be enormous pressure on a Republican House to begin impeachment proceedings.”
Am I the only one who feels that maybe this isn't the healthiest possible attitude towards administering a national government?
I mean, don't get me wrong. I think that every president should be impeached as frequently as possible. It keeps Congress busy and distracts them from their usual mission of encroaching on the liberty of American citizens. But I say that with a rather defeatist attitude. I'd rather that Congress NOT dedicate the majority of their attention to making all of our lives worse unless otherwise occupied. But I'm a realist, and I can't see that happening...
I don't hate the guy. I don't respect him, but I don't hate him. That's pretty close to "neutral."
He's really gone and shown the true colors of modern US politics today. I'm not going to cite a specific source, because that's the sort of thing that makes people say "that's a fake source," so just fire up the search engine of your choice if you doubt what I'm saying here.
Mr. Cruz has essentially stated that, if Republicans regain control of the house in the next election, that they will more than likely impeach Biden, regardless of whether there's a good reason to do so or not, purely out of spite for the Democrat-led house impeaching Trump twice.
Literally.
“The Democrats weaponized impeachment. They used it for partisan purposes to go after Trump because they disagreed with him. The more you weaponize it and turn it into a partisan cudgel — you know, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”
There's a lot of truth in the above. Federal politics has become a competitive sport, in which We the People no longer really matter. What counts is harming the "other" party and their figureheads as much as possible.
"Because the Democrats decided this is just another tool in the partisan war chest, I think there’s a real risk that that turnabout will be fair play … whether it’s justified or not.”
There we go with the true colors. Whether it's justified or not, we're going to impeach "their" president because they impeached "ours."
“I said at the time, when we have a Democratic president and a Republican House, you can expect an impeachment proceeding. That’s not how impeachment is meant to work. But I think the Democrats crossed that line. There’ll be enormous pressure on a Republican House to begin impeachment proceedings.”
Am I the only one who feels that maybe this isn't the healthiest possible attitude towards administering a national government?
I mean, don't get me wrong. I think that every president should be impeached as frequently as possible. It keeps Congress busy and distracts them from their usual mission of encroaching on the liberty of American citizens. But I say that with a rather defeatist attitude. I'd rather that Congress NOT dedicate the majority of their attention to making all of our lives worse unless otherwise occupied. But I'm a realist, and I can't see that happening...
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^^ Just a thought . . . assuming they gain majority, how (weak) would a republican house look if they didn't flex their muscle against the dems? They may not even want or need to seek a meaningless impeachment, but if they didn't, what would that say about them to their constituents? Couldn't you could make an argument that they have no choice? If they don't, then it will undoubtedly be played as tacit agreement that Trump was indeed as bad as they claimed, and that it was not just the new level of partisan theatrics.
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An eye for an eye eventually leaves everyone blind. Musing the idea is one thing, to let off steam. Actually doing something damaging to the republic for spite is not good at all.
And... then there is the practical aspect of, if the impeachment results in conviction and removal from office.... we all get Kamala.
EDIT: All I could find were partial quotes. I’d have to hear the actual, unedited broadcast to determine if I thought Cruz was actually pushing for or supporting the idea.
And... then there is the practical aspect of, if the impeachment results in conviction and removal from office.... we all get Kamala.
EDIT: All I could find were partial quotes. I’d have to hear the actual, unedited broadcast to determine if I thought Cruz was actually pushing for or supporting the idea.
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#193
The democrats were talking about impeachment before trump was even elected, it's about time the republicans play the same game they do. The democrats were also talking about impeachment of bush before 9/11. I believe they wanted to get the first bush as well.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/de...op-presidents/
Even lying *** snopes points it out, 5/6 the democrats ha e went for.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/de...op-presidents/
Even lying *** snopes points it out, 5/6 the democrats ha e went for.
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^^ Just a thought . . . assuming they gain majority, how (weak) would a republican house look if they didn't flex their muscle against the dems? They may not even want or need to seek a meaningless impeachment, but if they didn't, what would that say about them to their constituents?
To be clear: we're all fucked. Congress has devolved into something resembling pro-wrestling*, where everything is a simple black-or-white matter, and there are only two sides to every matter, and if you're not 100% for us, then you're obviously 100% against us, and if it looks like things are finally getting better, well... just wait until next week when a whole new controversy erupts!
And it's our fault.
We the People require sort of bizarre theatrics of our elected representatives, for precisely the reasons you illustrate.
Oh, God! What would happen if a newly-elected Republican majority in the House of Representatives DIDN'T immediately impeach the President purely out of spite? What would the people who voted for them think? What would political-opinion-show hosts say?
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I was trying to think of a more eloquent way to describe what you wrote, but in the end, "really dumb" just fits the best.
"The democrats are a bunch of irresponsible ********, so god-dammit, I expect that my own Republican elected representatives will also behave like irresponsible ******** when given the chance!"
Can you take a moment, look at what you've said from a detached perspective, and maybe see how this sort of expectation is actually the very reason we find ourselves living in this parody of a state?
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I mean, he's not wrong. The current Congress has in fact abused the Impeachment process against Trump.
But in what universe is the mature, rational response to that to then turn right around and act just as irresponsibly and irrationally?
Aside: am I the only one who finds the format of those podcasts weird? Ted Cruz is being interviewed by employees of Ted Cruz, answering questions written by Ted Cruz.
Try to view the video with that fact in mind. Ted Cruz is scripting this conversation in order to plant the seed of that idea.
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Oh, sweetie... You're so confused.
Both republicans and democrats are politicians.
You said "Currently the system works for the democrats."
But you were missing the bigger picture. Currently, the system works for the republicans and the democrats. They're the same thing; politicians.
Both republicans and democrats are politicians.
You said "Currently the system works for the democrats."
But you were missing the bigger picture. Currently, the system works for the republicans and the democrats. They're the same thing; politicians.