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#121
I thought 'Canberra' nailed it, but apparently not. So taxes that are avoidable are not immoral? WTF is an immoral tax then? How can any tax be 'immoral'? How can morality have anything to do with taxation? There are any number of adjectives that I could apply to taxation, but I cannot see morality being one (not in the real world anyway).
You still have not addressed the 'it' question in my last post - if you are going to participate here, you need to be able to explain/defend a position otherwise there is always Brain's redpill thread ...
You still have not addressed the 'it' question in my last post - if you are going to participate here, you need to be able to explain/defend a position otherwise there is always Brain's redpill thread ...
Last edited by Gee Emm; 11-17-2021 at 09:37 PM. Reason: spelling
#122
I thought 'Canberra' nailed it, but apparently not. So taxes that are avoidable are not immoral? WTF is an immoral tax then? How can any tax be 'immoral'? How can morality have anything to do with taxation? There are any number of adjectives that I could apply to taxation, but I cannot see morality being one (not in the real world anyway).
You still have not addressed the 'it' question in my last post - if you are going to participate here, you need to be able to explain/defend a position otherwise there is always Brain's redpill thread ...
You still have not addressed the 'it' question in my last post - if you are going to participate here, you need to be able to explain/defend a position otherwise there is always Brain's redpill thread ...
Income taxes are immoral, they are basically slavery. Food taxes are immoral. Any taxes that have to be payed just to exist are immoral and wrong.
#125
If anything, I found the US less transparent, because when you are choosing between buying or doing different things, you don't actually know what you'll end up paying. E.g.: I want to choose between buying a PlayStation for $400 or renting a car for a long weekend for $400. It can be tricky to find out what you'd actually end up paying for these options.
#128
Really?
When you go into a supermarket you don't pay tax on all items. In fact not all food items are untaxed (at least in my state). Prices marked on the shelf are not reflective of any tax anywhere so depending on what county and city you may be shopping in you'll pay a different tax. Go through a drive through restaurant and you'll see no tax on food items but eat inside and you'll pay a tax (in most states).
A VAT tax is much more transparent (what you keep saying you want) because it's the amount you pay for the product... any product. In the USA the politicians keep you guessing because they keep talking the talk but at the end of the day the taxes you pay keep going up. Just like the old frog in the hot pan story...
VAT tax explained
When you go into a supermarket you don't pay tax on all items. In fact not all food items are untaxed (at least in my state). Prices marked on the shelf are not reflective of any tax anywhere so depending on what county and city you may be shopping in you'll pay a different tax. Go through a drive through restaurant and you'll see no tax on food items but eat inside and you'll pay a tax (in most states).
A VAT tax is much more transparent (what you keep saying you want) because it's the amount you pay for the product... any product. In the USA the politicians keep you guessing because they keep talking the talk but at the end of the day the taxes you pay keep going up. Just like the old frog in the hot pan story...
VAT tax explained
#130
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I would personally favor a VAT instead of income tax. That way, even if you made your money under the table or by illegal means you still pay tax.
And Bajingo, you'll always see the VAT rate on the receipt.
And Bajingo, you'll always see the VAT rate on the receipt.
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Are you seriously telling me that you assumed that the percentage of tax assessed under VAT was uniform across all countries which utilize this model?
Or are you so poorly-skilled at trolling that you thought this would elicit an argument?
Either way, you need to take a break for a while. Please self-impose a ten day ban from this thread. Don't even reply to this post.
Honor system.
Go play in the Redpill thread during your timeout.