The police have militarized, you should be afraid
05-23-2011, 12:40 PM
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The police have militarized, you should be afraid
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swat...ry?id=13640112
Tucson SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times
"We were so worried when he was over there fighting terrorism, but he gets shot in his own home," Ortiz said. "The government killed one of their own."
Tucson SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times
"We were so worried when he was over there fighting terrorism, but he gets shot in his own home," Ortiz said. "The government killed one of their own."
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05-23-2011, 01:36 PM
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I'm sure the police were acting in self defense all sixty times they fired.
And a "multi-house warrant?" I thought they needed probable cause to get judge to sign a search warrant. Seems to me probable cause would involve specific knowledge...or just being friendly with the judge so that the cops can go kicking in every door on a city block on a fishing expedition. It sure is good to be a judge and be above the ******* law. I hope ************* swing for this but know they won't.
And a "multi-house warrant?" I thought they needed probable cause to get judge to sign a search warrant. Seems to me probable cause would involve specific knowledge...or just being friendly with the judge so that the cops can go kicking in every door on a city block on a fishing expedition. It sure is good to be a judge and be above the ******* law. I hope ************* swing for this but know they won't.
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05-23-2011, 01:46 PM
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yeah, but he could of had drugs! worth it.
this is what happens when you wage war on things (ig, poverty, drugs, AIDs, terrorism) and then expect the local police to do something about it, then when it gets out of hand, you just teach them miltary tactics and let them go to town.
this is what happens when you wage war on things (ig, poverty, drugs, AIDs, terrorism) and then expect the local police to do something about it, then when it gets out of hand, you just teach them miltary tactics and let them go to town.
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05-24-2011, 12:28 PM
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Stories like this **** me off. We know precisely jack **** about the specifics of the warrant, the exact situation at the house that night, or what was actually said and done by either the officers or the suspect. I'm pretty sure that if I were serving a warrant on someone and they started threatening to shoot me with a rifle from a second-story window, I'd probably be inclined to eliminate that threat as well.
Storie defended the long delay in allowing paramedics to enter the home, saying of the SWAT team, "They still don't know how many shooters are inside, how many guns are inside and they still have to assume that they will be ambushed if they walk in this house."
That seems like a reasonable precaution to me, given that they'd just had the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral in there.
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05-24-2011, 12:36 PM
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05-24-2011, 01:08 PM
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Joe, regarldess of the threat, I'm pretty sure it's not common practice to unload on a house from outside. This isn't Die Hard. and they found nothing of interest inside the house.
I guess it isn't an unreasonable search if they kill you first?
We dont know if the police identified themselves when they saw the guy, they obviously didn't serve the warrant beforehand. I imagine one of the officers who happened to be securing the perimieter, saw him and opened up. Then the rest followed suit to see who could unload their clips faster.
I guess it isn't an unreasonable search if they kill you first?
We dont know if the police identified themselves when they saw the guy, they obviously didn't serve the warrant beforehand. I imagine one of the officers who happened to be securing the perimieter, saw him and opened up. Then the rest followed suit to see who could unload their clips faster.
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