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Old 11-10-2011, 12:09 PM
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Do you know the why behind ditching analog broadcast TV? Digital is the future and is a far more efficient use of finite resources.
While I am all for digital, there was huge lobbying back in the day from broadcasters and studios. They wanted all broadcasting to switch to digital and encrypted. Only "certified" TVs would be able to decrypt the broadcasts, and this watch, to rule out any TiVO (or any DVRs) that can let you record movies (buy that $29.95 DVD!) or auto-skip commercials.
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That's funny and sad because a tiny part of that $90million is mine. When the public company I work for needs to fill a job it gets posted on just about every job search site, Craigslist and sent out to the many recruiters we work with. Having a single source is stupid.
it's just an example I deal with. the OPM decided they could do a better job than monster.com and it's negatively impacting our performance.

Do you know the why behind ditching analog broadcast TV? Digital is the future and is a far more efficient use of finite resources.
of course it is, but did we need the fed gov't to come in and say by X date you have to produced Y product? If the market was already heading in that direction, why force it? I can no longer just hook an old TV into the wall and get some basic cable. the market was flooded with $500 7" lcd screens that had the picture quality of a turd smear. Even now, my TV looks like ****, the compression ratio on the signals is retarded. You can flip the channels anymore. I can go on and on with the downsides.

Analog was always going to be ditched, so why stick your nose into it and cause trouble?

And dont get me started on toliets that can't handle my ****...another brillant gov't innovation.

I'm really torn about the environmental impacts of mining and industrial operations (that's what you're refering to with tungsten, right?).
There has to be some restrictions or greed and the desire for cheap products will destroy the planet we depend upon. Corporate responsibility doesn't exist so we come up with stupid blanket laws that are just as bad as none.
The only reason this law was passed is so GE could get rich selling $50 light bulbs. The fact that there's some sort of benefit to the enviroment...like disposing of mercury in landfills, is only an easy selling point.

The technology isn't there yet; I hate LED, Halogen, and Flurencent bulbs -- I prefer candlelight to those POS bulbs...which frankly is about all the lumens they can output. And now, I can no longer buy the bulbs I like and enjoyed I've honestly looked into alternative sources to get some of the bulbs I used to buy. I've stocked up on 150 watt Revel type-A bulbs because those are no longer sold in store. It's retarded, and again, the market was already going in that direction.

Should we impose a labor rate or environmental impact based tax on imported goods?
no.

Either you pay Chinese kids US labor rates (those are going to be some wealthy kids) or pay import taxes based on the discrepancy.
how about the business man pays his employee whatever they agree on?

Adopt US environmental protection levels or pay import taxes based on how badly you're ******* the environment vs what is allowed here. Should we extend that regionally in this country too? Afterall it's much cheaper to grow/build/develop/code/support/etc everything in the mid-west than it is on the coasts. **** those job stealing midwesterners.
Ok Al Gore...

**** your pork, I mean airport.
Did you google it? That's your gov't innovation. They received $5 million in stimulous money in 2009, built this an extravagant terminal which hasn't been used. Now they are getting an additional $750,000 for a nice boost in innovation.

grants and substidies do not equal innovation. they equal waste and lost opportunities for real innovation and advancement.

I can't wait for Amtrak to bring their auto transport services to me. I'd very much like to load the MSM on a train and relax as I'm shuttled across the country to some kick *** roads and sweet tracks. Would make for some fantastic vacations.
why can't a private company do this? they better, cheaper, and make a profit...unlike Amtrak that operates at a huge loss and it only in business because we prop it up.
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Timely reading on FDA innovation:

Recently, there have been shortages of some medicines. Cancer patients can’t get drugs they need.

Why not?

One reason is that a big drugmaker shut down for a year in part to meet Food and Drug Administration rules. The FDA makes it so expensive and difficult to sell drugs that there isn’t an eager pack of companies rushing to the fill the gap.

…Does the FDA say it’s sorry for its part and back off? Of course not.

Regulators almost never do that.

In fact, the FDA wants more power. It wants to regulate how your doctor uses his smartphone.

I’m not kidding!

The FDA wants the power to approve mobile medical apps that let doctors monitor patients’ vital signs over their phones. As one doctor put it, “Even though I’m away from the hospital, I can still look at … real-time wave form data just as if I were at the patient’s bedside.”

Sounds great. It makes doctors more efficient.

But the FDA basically says, “No, you just can’t put something on your phone if it’s a medical device. What if it doesn’t work right? We have to approve it first.” …what’s the harm in running apps past the regulators?

…There’s a big cost to the public when companies submit applications and then wait years for FDA approval. “We’re losing time, precious time that lives are dependent upon,” Emord said. “MIM Software developed a simple mobile device that would combine MRI images, PET scans, CAT scans all together and produce a super image that was better for diagnosis … right on your phone. To get that through the agency, it took two and a half years and cost some hundreds of thousands of dollars. All the while it could have been in use, and ultimately it was approved.”

Lawyers and reporters encourage bureaucrats to move slowly. If something goes wrong, the media make a huge fuss about it, and the class-action parasites pounce. But when the FDA delays a device for years and people die, we don’t report that.

We don’t even know who the victims are.

Useful HIV drugs were available in Europe for years before the FDA approved them for use here. A doctor at the Cleveland Clinic invented a medical app that helped physicians calibrate the amount of radiation to give to women with breast cancer. The FDA demanded so much extra and expensive proof of its safety that he abandoned it.

The FDA’s caution leads many companies to just give up on potentially lifesaving ideas. Yet I don’t hear companies complaining. “If you raise your head above the parapet and you become vocal in your criticism, the FDA remembers like an elephant and will stamp you out of existence. They’ll punish you. It’s so much discretion in their hands. They sit like emperors reigning over this stuff.”
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Bureucracy at its best. Sad part is that if feels as if the snowball will keep rolling downhill and become bigger and bigger and bigger... :/
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haha, off topic from the economy:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...ially-dead.ars

More places to spend copious amounts of government savings...oh...wait...there isn't any? That's ok, we will just add another tax in the name of security and protection.
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(Reuters) - Alabama's Jefferson County filed for bankruptcy court protection on Wednesday in the biggest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history.

Commissioners for the county, which is home to Birmingham, the state's biggest city and economic powerhouse, voted 4-1 to declare bankruptcy after meeting behind closed doors for two days in a last ditch-attempt to restructure its debt out of court.

A tentative deal reached with creditors in September to settle $3.14 billion in red ink had been widely expected to avert bankruptcy. But the deal fell apart over what the commission described as creditors' refusal to meet the terms of previously agreed economic concessions.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
While I am all for digital, there was huge lobbying back in the day from broadcasters and studios. They wanted all broadcasting to switch to digital and encrypted. Only "certified" TVs would be able to decrypt the broadcasts, and this watch, to rule out any TiVO (or any DVRs) that can let you record movies (buy that $29.95 DVD!) or auto-skip commercials.
Industry lobbying is nothing new, especially not from content producers. Despite the massive failure of CSS, the blue-ray spec has even more nonsense built in and just like CSS it's fairly easy to crack and watch the movie you paid for how you want. Every DVD I own was ripped with Handbrake and are easily watched with XBMC without annoying "unskipable" advertisements that some studio pocketed truckloads of cash to bombard me with. When an easy method comes out to rip blue-ray's, I'll do the same after sending the dudes at AnyDVD some more cash to enable HD disc decryption. Doesn't make them right for trying to force "protection" on broadcast TV and them trying to do so doesn't make digital broadcasting wrong. It just means geeks and those who are willing to make the effort will have a better viewing than those who do so more legitimately. It kills me, even after all this time MPAA/RIAA still don't get it.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
of course it is, but did we need the fed gov't to come in and say by X date you have to produced Y product? If the market was already heading in that direction, why force it?
Because the .gov regulates the spectrum and in order to free it for new uses there has to be a date where the old use is no longer acceptable.

I can no longer just hook an old TV into the wall and get some basic cable.
cable != broadcast, complain to your cable provider that you don't want more HD channels or more internet bandwidths. Analog on a cable network is a total hog, multiple digital HD channels fit in the spectrum used by just one analog SD channel.

You can flip the channels anymore. I can go on and on with the downsides.
My cable provider uses switched digital video for the less popular channels. It's far from perfect and absolutely sucks if you're a channel surfer. I'll take the ~2 second delay in channel changing to get more content in HD and more and faster internets.

Analog was always going to be ditched, so why stick your nose into it and cause trouble?
Isn't that what the .gov does best?

The only reason this law was passed is so GE could get rich selling $50 light bulbs. The fact that there's some sort of benefit to the enviroment...like disposing of mercury in landfills, is only an easy selling point.

The technology isn't there yet; I hate LED, Halogen, and Flurencent bulbs -- I prefer candlelight to those POS bulbs...which frankly is about all the lumens they can output. And now, I can no longer buy the bulbs I like and enjoyed I've honestly looked into alternative sources to get some of the bulbs I used to buy. I've stocked up on 150 watt Revel type-A bulbs because those are no longer sold in store. It's retarded, and again, the market was already going in that direction.
I'm not baller enough for LED lights, CFLs are garbage and in my house die quicker than incandescent and have to warm up. WTF? Never saw a difference on my electric bill either. Last pack of bulbs I bought were reliable *** incandescents, seriously I still have bulbs that were there when I moved in 8 years ago but CFLs get replaced multiple times since then.

Ok Al Gore...
I wish I could take credit for the internet

Did you google it? That's your gov't innovation. They received $5 million in stimulous money in 2009, built this an extravagant terminal which hasn't been used. Now they are getting an additional $750,000 for a nice boost in innovation.
No, I ran out of time and had to post & run. Sounds a bit like the STL international airport, build fancy new terminal, bulldoze lots of houses because the airport needs expansion...then TWA happened. So much money was wasted on one of the terminal windows that they can't afford to replace the glass a tornado blew out earlier this year. Millions of dollars for <20 pieces of glass.

why hasn't a private company done this? they better, cheaper, and make a profit
ftfy

unlike Amtrak that operates at a huge loss and it only in business because we prop it up.
Why do we prop up all the other transportation sectors but not trains? taxes pay for roads, airports, cars, jets, airline bailouts, auto maker bailouts. Oh that's right, we're building a high speed (by 1960's definition) line between STL & Chicago, except it stops outside of STL and isn't high speed because it still runs on the old freight tracks. A decent rail system needs it's own track system without grade crossings where the passenger cars don't stop so freight can go by.

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(Reuters) - Alabama's Jefferson County filed for bankruptcy court protection on Wednesday in the biggest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history.
There are no words for this
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My biggest gripe about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 is that signs were posted everywhere in Illinois bragging about how awesome it was for infrastructure. They started and have completed the majority of the highway rebuilding and resurfacing. The projects made absolutely no improvements in any road I have driven throughout the city. After all that money was burnt up, then the state decided it needed more money from increased taxes and tolls in order to actually add lanes and improve something.

Taxes are stupid, and the people that propose them are stupider.
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