US Government seeking legal power to target US citizens for being "terrorists".
#21
Rand Paul voted against it
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/R...8.html?ref=128
instead of listing all those who betrayed us i will list those who have stood by us
Coburn (R-OK)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lee (R-UT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Paul (R-KY)
Sanders (I-VT)
Wyden (D-OR)
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/R...8.html?ref=128
instead of listing all those who betrayed us i will list those who have stood by us
Coburn (R-OK)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lee (R-UT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Paul (R-KY)
Sanders (I-VT)
Wyden (D-OR)
#23
because they want more power to do whatever they want
take out political enemies or whatever
who knows
certainly not actual terrorist
considering the definition of a terrorist according to the patriot act it is clearly a law prime for abuse
what i am wondering is why would these men not want more power?
take out political enemies or whatever
who knows
certainly not actual terrorist
considering the definition of a terrorist according to the patriot act it is clearly a law prime for abuse
what i am wondering is why would these men not want more power?
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because they want more power to do whatever they want
take out political enemies or whatever
who knows
certainly not actual terrorist
considering the definition of a terrorist according to the patriot act it is clearly a law prime for abuse
what i am wondering is why would these men not want more power?
take out political enemies or whatever
who knows
certainly not actual terrorist
considering the definition of a terrorist according to the patriot act it is clearly a law prime for abuse
what i am wondering is why would these men not want more power?
#25
it is when you commit any crime that could be considered dangerous to human life that one could legally consider you a terrorist
and since these new powers are exempt from the freedom of information act then what is to stop them from abusing their power and detaining someone who hasn't fit the legal definition of a terrorist
oh i almost forgot
the reason this is being made into a big deal is because there will be NO PROSECUTION
so no your not gonna get prosecuted
just simply locked away til they feel like lettin ya out
that is if they ever feel like it
#26
who said anything about owning a firearm?
it is when you commit any crime that could be considered dangerous to human life that one could legally consider you a terrorist
and since these new powers are exempt from the freedom of information act then what is to stop them from abusing their power and detaining someone who hasn't fit the legal definition of a terrorist
oh i almost forgot
the reason this is being made into a big deal is because there will be NO PROSECUTION
so no your not gonna get prosecuted
just simply locked away til they feel like lettin ya out
that is if they ever feel like it
it is when you commit any crime that could be considered dangerous to human life that one could legally consider you a terrorist
and since these new powers are exempt from the freedom of information act then what is to stop them from abusing their power and detaining someone who hasn't fit the legal definition of a terrorist
oh i almost forgot
the reason this is being made into a big deal is because there will be NO PROSECUTION
so no your not gonna get prosecuted
just simply locked away til they feel like lettin ya out
that is if they ever feel like it
He doesn't need to threaten anyone with it.
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Looks like they as passing a law that allows the us govt to imprision you indefinitely if they subjectively decide you are an "enemy"
Looks like they as passing a law that allows the us govt to imprision you indefinitely if they subjectively decide you are an "enemy"
#30
blaen99 be sure to check out brains link ^^
it now seems obama no longer intends (that is if he even did in the first place) on vetoing this
i heard lars larson on the radio the other day talking saying to someone that only four americans have met this definition before
he said he had an expert,former prosecuter talk about it on his show
here is the clip
http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsons...ccarthy-on-the
he says only four americans in ten years fit the definition of enemy combatant
and not all terrorists fit the definition
first of all lars
can you seriously clarify something like this in 1:09? wtf
second i can't take anyone seriously when they don't reference specific sections of the bill
i skimmed the bill but did not find it
when i get some time i will look some more but from what i understand the definition of enemy combatant is somewhere else
but first i gotta look at the bill and see if it truly only applies to enemy combatants
and if being a domestic terrorist according to sec.802 of the patriot act makes you an enemy combatant
then yeah this bill is fucked up
and regardless of everything i just typed
even if the definition is extremely as it is claimed to be
it is still in direct violation of the constitution
and that is disgusting
it now seems obama no longer intends (that is if he even did in the first place) on vetoing this
i heard lars larson on the radio the other day talking saying to someone that only four americans have met this definition before
he said he had an expert,former prosecuter talk about it on his show
here is the clip
http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsons...ccarthy-on-the
he says only four americans in ten years fit the definition of enemy combatant
and not all terrorists fit the definition
first of all lars
can you seriously clarify something like this in 1:09? wtf
second i can't take anyone seriously when they don't reference specific sections of the bill
i skimmed the bill but did not find it
when i get some time i will look some more but from what i understand the definition of enemy combatant is somewhere else
but first i gotta look at the bill and see if it truly only applies to enemy combatants
and if being a domestic terrorist according to sec.802 of the patriot act makes you an enemy combatant
then yeah this bill is fucked up
and regardless of everything i just typed
even if the definition is extremely as it is claimed to be
it is still in direct violation of the constitution
and that is disgusting
#34
well it is official now
obama has signed the law
one more thing we can add to his list of lies
imo this is one of the worst ones
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
obama has signed the law
one more thing we can add to his list of lies
imo this is one of the worst ones
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
#40
Well apparently some states are fightin back on this NDAA pile of crap
here is an article about what virginia did about it
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...tes-join-fight
here is an article about what virginia did about it
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...tes-join-fight