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F20turbo 07-24-2006 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Loki047
ill probably drop you a line in a few weeks for that pick up, I just put the first "coat" of jb weld. i figure ill give it a try, and Im hoping ill notice that im losing pressure (if its not a blow out of the weld).


good luck man, i hope it works for ya.

olderguy 07-24-2006 05:34 PM

Remember, it's sucking there, so a patch that won't fall out should hold. Try cleaning the pipe good and run the JB Weld all around so that it won't fall out from vibration. Like a clamp.

Loki047 07-24-2006 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy
Remember, it's sucking there, so a patch that won't fall out should hold. Try cleaning the pipe good and run the JB Weld all around so that it won't fall out from vibration. Like a clamp.

Thats what i did. I planted a bead around the hole, let it dry for a bit. Then filled over the middle hole and the bead again (avoid almost all the ealking into the pipe)

Edit: when i said blow out, i meant a complete failure insteadl of a small puncture.

olderguy 07-24-2006 09:07 PM

What I meant is run a bead around the diameter of the pipe. That way is the adhesion fails, it will still stay in place.

Loki047 07-24-2006 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy
What I meant is run a bead around the diameter of the pipe. That way is the adhesion fails, it will still stay in place.

Oh im not that skilled (dont even know if thats possible) Im doing the repair through the tap hole.

But i realized i didn't drill through the pickup, i tapped through it :( I knew i was careful with the drill, the tap not so much.

olderguy 07-24-2006 09:22 PM

Doesn't have to be a nice bead, as long as it goes all the way around.

Loki047 07-24-2006 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy
Doesn't have to be a nice bead, as long as it goes all the way around.

You mean the hole? Or around the curcumfrance of the pipe?

olderguy 07-24-2006 09:37 PM

Circumference of the pipe.

kung fu jesus 07-24-2006 09:50 PM

maybe a little different path...cut a portion of the oil pan off to replace the pickup tube or to repair it, have the portion tig'd back on or jb weld it back on. just an idea.

Loki047 07-24-2006 10:12 PM

well the jb weld is on (been on for about 12 hours) im gonna start it up tomorrow. Thanks for all your guys help, hopefully this is a perm fix. :ugh2:

kung fu jesus 07-24-2006 10:26 PM

:bigtu: good luck!

m2cupcar 07-25-2006 08:54 AM

the shame in all this is nobody will ever be able to actually see your "welding" skills to fully appreciate them ;) I think it'll work fine. As mentioned- you've got the nature of the application on your side- suction pulling on the patch. - rob

Splitime 07-25-2006 09:41 AM

Hehe, this type of fix makes me feel like I'm back over on Homemadeturbo.com.

You are a brave man to trust jbweld to one of the most crucial engine systems. I know I'd be pissed... and just be replacing the pickup. Oil = lifeblood... you sir are brave.

Braineack 07-25-2006 09:58 AM

At least he's not trying it with silicone :eek4dance

Joe Perez 07-25-2006 10:15 AM

Hey, Loki. I'm getting ready to drill that same hole, and now I'm paranoid. Since you've got the system open right now, could you poke a stick through that hole and tell me exactly how much clearance there is from the outer surface of the pan to the pickup tube?

m2cupcar 07-25-2006 11:10 AM

My advice is to get a bit-stop. It's a collar with set screw- clamp on the bit 1/4" from the tip and you'll be safe. You drill through and then stop at the collar. I'm sure the issue is from pushing on the drill to get through, then when the break through happens, the motor is still spinning and just taps the tube which is VERY thin. The collar will stop this.

Braineack 07-25-2006 11:28 AM

Plus if you let the drill bit bit do the work then it shouldn't get pushed in. It will drill easily and it will go at its own pace. I tapped with a socket and it only barely needed to thread the thin wall of the pan. Plus you're going to want to JB Weld to hell out of it so it doesnt need to be too perfect of a tap job.

Loki047 07-25-2006 11:56 AM

Joe, I didnt drill the pick up. I tapped it :( (which is why i think the jab weld would hold) and left a weird shape that couldn't be done with a bit.

jayc72 07-25-2006 12:20 PM

I found when I tapped my pan that even though I wasn't pushing hard on the drill once the bit broke threw it wanted to grab and pull through. Surprised the hell out of me.

Loki047 07-25-2006 02:44 PM

She SUCKS!!! I mean she sucks oil :) Still not idling, starts then dies.

thanks for all the help! now to get her to idle


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