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Old 01-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #1
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[LEFT]I've advance my ignition a to about 14 and observed no knocking or detonation. My question is this...I wish to run 10psi so for arguments sake let's say if I have an adequate fuel/Air mixture, Should I retard the iginiton 10 degrees or 8 degrees at 4000rpms? At a base setting of 14 degress Retarding 10 degrees will give me an ignition timing of 4 degrees and Retarding 8 degrees will give me an ignition timing of degrees ....mathematically or theoretically which would be more ideal for 10psi?
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probably get away with a total of 8-10 retard.
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Mightymouse... I just read through all of your posts and I see a few trends.

Trend#1: Not reading the FAQ.
Trend#2: Not using the search function.
Trend#3: Purchasing equipment that you don't know how it functions or even what it's supposed to do.
Trend#4: Not reading or following the advice of responses to your questions.
Trend#5: Starting threads and then not following up, ie... telling people that you've done what they're saying and how it worked out.

This is just my impression of your 34 total posts.

Unless you reverse these trends, I foresee a long and painful turbo experience. First, help yourself by reading thoroughly through the FAQ before asking any questions. Second, use the search function before asking any questions. Third, don't buy anything else until you've done #1 and #2 about those products. Fourth, pay attention to people responding in your threads and follow their advice... and FIFTH, come back to all your threads and tell us how things worked out.

That is all.
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Mightymouse... I just read through all of your posts and I see a few trends.

Trend#1: Not reading the FAQ.
Trend#2: Not using the search function.
Trend#3: Purchasing equipment that you don't know how it functions or even what it's supposed to do.
Trend#4: Not reading or following the advice of responses to your questions.
Trend#5: Starting threads and then not following up, ie... telling people that you've done what they're saying and how it worked out.

This is just my impression of your 34 total posts.

Unless you reverse these trends, I foresee a long and painful turbo experience. First, help yourself by reading thoroughly through the FAQ before asking any questions. Second, use the search function before asking any questions. Third, don't buy anything else until you've done #1 and #2 about those products. Fourth, pay attention to people responding in your threads and follow their advice... and FIFTH, come back to all your threads and tell us how things worked out.

That is all.
We should print this in book form and hand-deliver it to new members.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:40 PM   #5
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wow <-- all i could say

samnavy just pwned

i feel bad and its not even directed toward me,

well sort of, im a new member

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Old 01-10-2008, 10:54 PM   #6
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This is the part of the forum that gets me....You guys forget that at one point you all did the same thing....thank you for reminding me of forum etiquette, but you have assumed that I have not done searches and that I have not responded to say thank you to individuals who have given me pratical advice. Understand that usually the questions I have are subtly different then what has been discussed, and frankly having to weed through the whining and complaining that is intertwined in the response makes for wasted time. So in response to the counsel given...I am using the very bandaids all of a sudden you all laugh at because of mspnp. Yet I'm not willing to pay $700 for a part that truthfully is far beyond what I really want to get into. I've purchased a DIY turbo kit, have installed injectors from a 1.8 and have been able to run the car at 10psi however, the majority of reponses said I was a fool for trying, but I did anyway. If you don't want to respond then so be it, but don't preach to me.
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From now on, I will endeavour to answer all of your questions to the maximum extent of my knowledge and not be a smart-***... but in the end it won't be as helpful.

If you have 93octane available, you can set your base timing to 14*... in winter, maybe 16*.
Initial pull at 14*base should be around 8* to start. 10* is very conservative.
If it's really cold and you're running rich through the midrange, you might after some listening be able to cut it down to only pulling 7* or 6*.

I saw your fuel pressure regulator with it's installed gauge. If don't know if you ever managed to get it working but it looks like one of the cheapo eBay products. I'd ditch it quick before it fails when you're in boost and blows your motor. I also wouldn't trust the gauge on it to be accurate.

For 10psi on 1.8's, you should be running near 100psi of fuel pressure... which your 255 is totally capable of putting out. If you got the 305's cleaned and trusted them, you could get that fuel pressure down to 85-90psi and take some strain off your fuel hoses.

At this point, you absolutely need to get some AF readings... whether that's springing $200 for an LC1 or an hour on a dyno somewhere. You can get away with a crappy intercooled tune at 5-6psi for a long time... but a crappy tune at 10psi will kill your motor quick.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:56 AM   #8
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That's what im talking aboutNow i have numbers to work with, thanks for seeing things through the eyes of a newbie, much appreciated.
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