13:1-14:1 in boost is asking for trouble. Have fun with it while it lasts :)
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 236831)
I'm going to wait for someone else to back me up, but I really don't think 13.5:1 AFRs in boost are safe, regardless of power levels or detonation.
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just build your MS this weekend at my place and you will have no worries =P
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this thread reminds me of every episode of the old Warner Bros Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner Cartoon.. 99NBMia is Wile E this is his scam to sneak up on Boost (The Road Runner)..
At this point Wile E. has the fuse lit on a huge keg of black powder. |
Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 236920)
this thread reminds me of every episode of the old Warner Bros Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner Cartoon.. 99NBMia is Wile E this is his scam to sneak up on Boost (The Road Runner)..
At this point Wile E. has the fuse lit on a huge keg of black powder. |
Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 236920)
this thread reminds me of every episode of the old Warner Bros Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner Cartoon.. 99NBMia is Wile E this is his scam to sneak up on Boost (The Road Runner)..
At this point Wile E. has the fuse lit on a huge keg of black powder. Its funny how people come in say things and have no facts to back up their statements. Sorry if someone gets offended by this, but you are giving false information that my set up is just a disaster waiting to happen, you are posting invalid information which other people are reading. I have yet to see any decrease in reliability or anything else. If you would like me to check anything else to help prove your point, I am more then open to suggestions on what to check (don't even say pull the head to check the pistons I am already short on time due to rewiring a old 240z from scratch, going to school, and working full time) :crx:. I love the fact that my stock management has produced the same #'s in compression and leak down test prior to boosting and now. I thank everyone who has given me any information to help me get on my way with my first FI set up (even if they think my set up will soon explode in diaster). I hope to get my MS running soon to make tuning applicable to my set up. I am in no way ungrateful for people's help, but ignorant opinions are a waste of time for those who are short on it. :hustler: P.S. I believe my A/F #'s may be a bit off due to an exhaust leak pre WB sensor...Thanks |
Originally Posted by 99NBMia
(Post 237017)
Yah and that short fuse has been in the same place for a couple of months now and oddly isn't burning any closer to its finale...:bowrofl:
Its funny how people come in say things and have no facts to back up their statements. Sorry if someone gets offended by this, but you are giving false information that my set up is just a disaster waiting to happen, you are posting invalid information which other people are reading. I have yet to see any decrease in reliability or anything else. If you would like me to check anything else to help prove your point, I am more then open to suggestions on what to check (don't even say pull the head to check the pistons I am already short on time due to rewiring a old 240z from scratch, going to school, and working full time) :crx:. I love the fact that my stock management has produced the same #'s in compression and leak down test prior to boosting and now. I thank everyone who has given me any information to help me get on my way with my first FI set up (even if they think my set up will soon explode in diaster). I hope to get my MS running soon to make tuning applicable to my set up. I am in no way ungrateful for people's help, but ignorant opinions are a waste of time for those who are short on it. :hustler: P.S. I believe my A/F #'s may be a bit off due to an exhaust leak pre WB sensor...Thanks Why worry about engine management if it's done right the way it is? |
You obviously want to roll the dice. Go for it, its good experimental data for the rest of us. Just be honest if any issues show up. It just seems strange that all of those factory ecu engineers are off base.
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Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 237041)
The facts are that your numbers are off and you have stated that the reason it still running is because you are driving it easy.. so don't sit there and act like what you are doing is the right approach.. it's stupid and a time bomb..
Why worry about engine management if it's done right the way it is?
Originally Posted by rotaryjunky
(Post 237043)
You obviously want to roll the dice. Go for it, its good experimental data for the rest of us. Just be honest if any issues show up. It just seems strange that all of those factory ecu engineers are off base.
I will post any updates as they are made or revealed, but as of now I have no problems. Sorry if I pushed people's buttons, but I just want to make sure all the valid facts are stated...thanks guys :) |
Originally Posted by 99NBMia
(Post 237120)
I never said I was doing it right, hence my purchase of MS-II, but you indeed said it was not safe when I have had no issues.
Hammer on it if it's safe. Do it... Do it !!! :giggle: |
Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 237127)
Help me understand if it's safe why you would need aftermarket engine management?
Hammer on it if it's safe. Do it... Do it !!! :giggle: |
Originally Posted by 99NBMia
(Post 237136)
So please stop with your damn misguided opinions until you have some facts about my car :hustler:.
Your setup is living on borrowed time. It may make it long enough for you to get the right things in place or it might not. If you can live with that sort of thing then good for you. Most can't or don't want to take that kind of risk. |
Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 237151)
in some places they would call your car an IED.
No need to bicker anymore, I will post up results as they come in...thanks for all the help and if you have any questions/suggestions (other than stop driving your car because it is going to die:hustler:) feel free to post/pm them. Don't worry, if the car does explode/die anytime till MS I will definitely post it, I care more about facts than my Ego. Thanks:) |
Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 237151)
in some places they would call your car an IED.
Isn't your car and everyone else's an IED? I mean what do you think internal combustion does? :bang: 99NB, i would just keep driving it. I know tons of ppl that are running turbo on stock management even without R.R.-FPRs and it is working fine. You will have megasquirt soon enough, no worries |
Originally Posted by 91NApeewee
(Post 237309)
Isn't your car and everyone else's an IED? I mean what do you think internal combustion does?
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Originally Posted by MX5-4me
(Post 237312)
no.
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Update:
Started to build the MS but I also sealed up the exhaust leak and cleaned my IM. After I was able to get a steady Idle I have been driving the car. I believe my wastegate is a bit tight and when I really floor it I can saw about 9-10 psi and I backed off (plan to fix this when I get home tonight). Also I have a update on my AFR, I am now showing mid to high 12's/sometimes low 13's in boost. I think the leak was messing with my AFR, I will try to post up a video later, but the camera I use (the one I bought for my lady) is going with her to Dayton Ohio for the week. Thanks for the help guys and I will definitely try to get some evidence to show this. |
Just thought that I should update this thread. I added 3 inch cat back exhaust, with a magnaflow muffler and highflow cat and am in the process and I am in the process of getting the downpipe I received to fit (HKS Manifolds suck for DPs:crx:).
The big update is that I finished building MSII (hopefully, still need to figure out the boomslang) and I am all ready to go. Hopefully AbeFM & 91NaPeeWee can help me out this weekend as I go down to San Diego. I have a CAS but hopefully Abe can help me use his method with stock sensors. Have 2 quick questions...I am just wondering if I should run my 330's after I get my car running with MSII or will I have enough room for 8 psi easily with my stock 99 injectors? I plan to upgrade to probably around 400cc or so later on down the road, but if I can refrain from having to swap those in now, I will be a lot better off. Lastly (sorry to ask this question, but I am very anxious) does anyone know where I should fall approximately in the power range? I am new to this and am hoping for about 200... 8 psi t25 FMIC DO WI 3 Inch exhaust Hopefully 2.5 - 2.75 DP and a good tune running the MSII:) Thanks & I will update this as soon as I have anymore process. |
Originally Posted by cjernigan
(Post 187495)
To run MS in your '99 like mine you'll need a 94-97 CAS, no big deal, just another ~$75.
Is it not just that a 94-97 is supposed to be better? |
Originally Posted by mkulak
(Post 249322)
I thought a 90-93 would work also? I've used a 90-93 CAS on a 95 with a stock ECU and a 97 CAS on a 91 with Stock ECU.
Is it not just that a 94-97 is supposed to be better? |
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