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Old 04-20-2010, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tellum
That's what I figured. I've got a T28 from an S14 with bad seals from a buddy. I'm going to see if I can swap the hot-side over.
Exactly what I'm doing with a genuine GT2554. I'll let you know how it goes, I should be getting the turbo any day now.
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Weak... Making it and cutting it out shouldn't be THAT hard. But to each their own I suppose. Also depends on your machining skills/availability.
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Originally Posted by thagr81 us
Weak... Making it and cutting it out shouldn't be THAT hard. But to each their own I suppose. Also depends on your machining skills/availability.
There's flanges sold for it, but I've already got a Begi-DP so it's worth the money to just buy a new compressor housing.
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Any links to those flanges?

I tried the T28 housing, and it won't work. The CHRA won't match up.
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Originally Posted by tellum
Any links to those flanges?

I tried the T28 housing, and it won't work. The CHRA won't match up.
Sucks about the T28 housing, you might as well return the chinacharger and get a different one/ a used SR20 turbo. Got a working one for 90 bucks (just bought it for the hot side housing).

This thread is now about how I can get the god damn compressor housing off the turbo. I've read that it's hard but this is ridiculous. Advise on how to get it off? I've heard people say to hit it with a rubber mallet, but how is that supposed to work of I don't have any support for it (not attached to anything).

EDIT: It also appears as though the flange has stopped being sold... Wow, here's a recipe for success: Make a cheap, mediocre product with no support whatsoever and requires more money to make work than a genuine Garrett. Go EmotorsUSA
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ETDracing (CXracing) told me I was out of luck when I asked to return it.
And I wasn't able to get the housing off the T28. Couldn't get the bolts loose. Was going to put it in a vise and use a breaker bar, but then I realized it wouldn't work anyway so I left it assembled.
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Originally Posted by tellum
ETDracing (CXracing) told me I was out of luck when I asked to return it.
And I wasn't able to get the housing off the T28. Couldn't get the bolts loose. Was going to put it in a vise and use a breaker bar, but then I realized it wouldn't work anyway so I left it assembled.
All my bolts are loose, it's just a matter of breaking the rust loose so I can take it off. So for I've jammed a tire iron up the compressor outlet and a breaker bar on the flange and ripped the **** away... But still no luck.
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Ouch.... soak it in penetrating lube?
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Originally Posted by tellum
Ouch.... soak it in penetrating lube?
Doing it now, hopefully I don't have to have it torched... But if that's what it comes down too, it's cheaper than a new turbo.
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Reviving this thread to say that just in case anyone is thinking about doing this:

******* don't. The compressor wheel specs are exactly the same as the genuine garrett part, but the ******* chinacharger's compressor wheel is much taller, so it doesn't fit.

I'm not 310 bucks out with two useless turbos sitting in my garage and no money to buy a working one, with all the turbo accessories bolted to my car except the turbo. **** china, **** emotorsusa, **** this stupid ******* ****.
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What the **** is a "non standard" flange? Do they go out of their way to make it similar, but not exact so you have to buy another one of their pieces of ****. Of course they don't want to let you know before hand that "Hey, it looks very similar to a T25 5 bolt flange, but we liked our bolt design better so we changed it". I'm right along side you, hoping their shop or warehouse burns down. Maybe I won't experience a karma backfire and have my house burn down in my sleep tonight, where I will die of inhalation.
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
What the **** is a "non standard" flange? Do they go out of their way to make it similar, but not exact so you have to buy another one of their pieces of ****. Of course they don't want to let you know before hand that "Hey, it looks very similar to a T25 5 bolt flange, but we liked our bolt design better so we changed it". I'm right along side you, hoping their shop or warehouse burns down. Maybe I won't experience a karma backfire and have my house burn down in my sleep tonight, where I will die of inhalation.
I don't see any other reason for them to do it - it wouldn't be so bad if they mentioned it, because this thing doesn't actually look too bad. In fact, it looks extremely well built and built to Garrett specs. It's just too bad the hotside isn't swapable, I have a feeling that they did that on purpose, made the compressor wheel just about 2mm too tall for a Garrett hotside.
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It's got to be pretty easy to have a flange made. Find someone locally with a plasma cutter, give them a pattern stenciled off the trubo, they make a flange in mild steel maybe 3/8 thick, and weld it to your DP.

Sucks, but it should work fine.
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
It's got to be pretty easy to have a flange made. Find someone locally with a plasma cutter, give them a pattern stenciled off the trubo, they make a flange in mild steel maybe 3/8 thick, and weld it to your DP.

Sucks, but it should work fine.
How much would you estimate that would cost?

I also really don't want to do that in case I decide to:
A. Sell a piece of it
or
B. Upgrade the turboz. There's really only 2 conceivable turbos that are made by emotorusa.
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Depends on the shop. Some small sole-proprietor place might bang out something like that for like 60 bucks if you hand them the pattern ready to go and just want cheapo-depot mild steel. Other shops might be damned busy and quote you like 200 bucks just to make you go away.

The other option I wonder about is just getting a proper housing from ATP turbo or something. Sell the other turbo, sell the turbine housing as a paper-weight, educate the amsses a bit, and then enjoy your car.
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I've been in a similar dilemma for a while now.
I actually ended up buying an S13 T25, but want to use the compressor side and wheel off the chinacharger since it means I wouldn't have to source 2-bolt inlets and 3-bolt outlets for the T25.
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my first post on here...

my google powers coudn't find any issues with the Chiturbos, so i purchased on this week from speedyracerparts http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/speedyracerparts/

pricing was good $377.00 CAD shipped to my work place within 1 week

the build quality looked decent enough and i was happy as hell until i got it home, and compared the GT2860RS to it side by side



then after i was finished pulling one off and calmed myself down, i started searching, and found this thread and a few others with negative feedback

I sent them an email this morning saying that their pictures and especially the description is brutal, everything in the add sounds like it will bolt in like a T25 or T28 style of turbo



the main vibe to their reply was "with difference downpipe flange"


I was like WTF

DESCRIPTION
Designed for quick spool application
Perfect Upgrade for GT25 Silvia S13 SR20det Turbocharger with difference downpipe flange
2.5" Inlet Diameter


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...item2eaf9cadb4

hopefully we can work it out..


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Old 09-11-2010, 10:34 AM
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weirtech cuts flanges and im sure he has what you need.
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turbo seems like a hx35 outlet
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Originally Posted by shlammed
weirtech cuts flanges and im sure he has what you need.
Ditto!
Aaron has most everything you may need, and if he doesn't, send him a gasket for it and he'll have the flanges cut in only a few weeks.
Only thing that sucks is that he is in Canada, and shipping is not so cheap, but it beats all your other alternatives.
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