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Old 03-08-2015, 10:28 PM   #21
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I'm shooting to stay like at 160whp so I don't believe I will need new injectors. I'll also be trying non inter cooled. I'm going to keep boost at 7psi and will keep a close eye with my incoming wideband and this



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That welded wiener looks like your oil drain, the bent hard line is probably oil in and the two banjo bolts are the water in and out. Look up your turbo manufacturer for proper water flow direction. Probably doesn't matter too much though.

What injectors did you decide to use?
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Please use our advice and get a set of injectors and some type of intercooling. You can get ebay intercoolers that work well for low cost. The injectors vary new -vs- used, but can be found for a good price. Don't rush the build, do it right.
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Please use our advice and get a set of injectors and some type of intercooling. You can get ebay intercoolers that work well for low cost. The injectors vary new -vs- used, but can be found for a good price. Don't rush the build, do it right.
I appriciate your concern. But thing is, thats like another $500. I live in Hawaii and its usually like 80's and highs of low 90's so it is relatively cool and high humidity. I will make sure to keep an eye on the temps and injector duty. if at any point I see anything alarming, I'll pony up.
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You keep saying you understand.
But you don't.

But I guess if your goal really is only a measly 160, it will likely work.

and at least both those items can be added later without too much work

90's ambient will result in like 180-220* ait on a boosted pull. I'm sure your engine doesn't like swallowing lava
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You keep saying you understand.
But you don't.

But I guess if your goal really is only a measly 160, it will likely work.

and at least both those items can be added later without too much work

90's ambient will result in like 180-220* ait on a boosted pull. I'm sure your engine doesn't like swallowing lava
180-220.. hmm.. 180 sounds within reason… What's too hot?
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20-40 over ambient
maybe 180 peak during a long boosted pull or on track, but otherwise no it's not.
But you should find out the hard way and post results
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Yeah, you should definitely save the 400 bucks by skipping the injectors, and just buy a whole engine two weeks after you get this thing on boost. Lava in, magma inside.
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I am under the the impression that ms3 and wideband will let me keep an eye out on potential issues. Are you saying otherwise?
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Correct. You have no idea what egt's are, and could never respond quickly enough on boost if it started to detonate.

Do you really think that people haven't tried your route? You seem to be in a super hurry to screw this thing up. Yesterday you didn't know what the lines coming out of the turbo were for, let alone run megasquirt. I was confused as all hell when I started using MS, but I was only na and had a huge margin for error.
What on earth makes you think that you are mentally prepared to take on this task at this point in time?
If you don't slow down, this thing is destined to be an artificial reaf.
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You also bought the most expensive MS possible...you could have gotten a MS2 from the forums for like $400 then had $800. Thats enough for IDs and a Stage 2 intercooler from fab9...

That was easily your biggest mistake.
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I thought I need ms3 for the nb2..

My plan is to learn about tuning while NA until summer then go turbo. If it is the case that I dont freakin need the ms3 I'd be better off selling it for a small loss and picking up something for $400.
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You can build an MS3 yourself for ~$500. Read the Megasquirt for noobs thread and you will learn more.
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I thought I needed the vvt controls and sumother stuff and price goes up to like almost 1000

Well this sucks.
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No, MS3+MS3x if you build it yourself has VVT and everything. 519$ from DIYAutotune.
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No, MS3+MS3x if you build it yourself has VVT and everything. 519$ from DIYAutotune.
So I paid $700 for someone to put it together? You serious? There's no other differences?
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No, the MSpnpPro has more features. But if you don't even care about getting new injectors then you probably don't care about those either.
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Well this sucks.
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Stop sucking and start reading. I think the very first post either here or on the other site, I told you to buy a used ms 2. You didn't even research for ten seconds. You just "knew".
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stop misleading this noob

no you didn't pay 700 for someone to assemble it
yes the ms3 is awesome and what you need to properly and nicely control your nb2

yes it's worth every penny of the 1k you spent on it.
next guy that tells someone they're stupid for paying a PROFESSIONAL to assemble an ecu better have a self built one in their car or I'm gonna e-slap them

I'd say 70% of the people here are not capable of building their own ms3 properly, and should absolutely buy a pnp unit from rev, brain, or diy

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Sorry paw. I'm ducking out on this one, as I don't really know myself.
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