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Old 03-10-2015, 08:16 PM   #61
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feedback: you're an idiot.
I always knew you were one, and gave you another chance cause I thought there was hope.

Nope.
So much for this thread.
FINALLY.... Dam Ive been following this thread just for this... thank you 18psi
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:17 PM   #62
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Your right, you have exhausted ALL avenues of NA power.
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FINALLY.... Dam Ive been following this thread just for this... thank you 18psi
What's the last great thing you have contributed to your local community? When you die, you are going to think about your life. You will ponder about lifes purpose. You will think about what are most important. Your conclusion will be mostly that you would like to have spent more time with friends, family and your loved ones. Treat people with kindness and you will be set free.

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Your right, you have exhausted ALL avenues of NA power.
I never said I did, and thats why I was considering going NA and using the MS3. But i saw this turbo set up and jumped on it but went ms3 anyways because I has hoping to skip intercooler and injectors. Perhaps foolish, but I've read many others who were happy with the set up so I thought I could also. I've decided against it with everyones input and because I plan to autocross. Another good reason for the cheap turbo is because I could sell my rb header and make back the cost of the manifold and turbo.
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I knew, sooner than later, the " How to trubo for 500bucks redneck style" would be the beam of light for someone.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:44 PM   #65
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What's the last great thing you have contributed to your local community? When you die, you are going to think about your life. You will ponder about lifes purpose. You will think about what are most important. Your conclusion will be mostly that you would like to have spent more time with friends, family and your loved ones. Treat people with kindness and you will be set free.
Last time I checked this isn't Sunday Church school....Im full of kindness too, I just have a low tolerance for stupidity!
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Last time I checked this isn't Sunday Church school....Im full of kindness too, I just have a low tolerance for stupidity!
Are you confusing kindness and politeness? Neither if which are you showing to me btw.

I say try to treat everyone like you would your own mother. But what do I know, I guess I'm just an idiot that deserves to be treated like **** because of the way I make my car part decision
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:34 PM   #68
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The butthurt is becoming strong with this one.

I has a sad because he's a nice kid. I don't think he's stupid. Just a little naive.

Dude.

Please.

Listen.

The flaming will continue. bear it. take it like a man. Bite a rope and grin. Once you get past that, just install your MSpro and learn. You've got your turbo bits. take a year to finish gathering the stuff you need, and install it next year.

Resist the butthurt.

Or you can ragequit. Up to you.
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Old 03-10-2015, 10:37 PM   #69
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Haha thanks that was funny.

I'm not mad, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to fight back against bullies. I fight em all day in all my community organizing and student union work. I'm always fighting for the little guy. I ain't quitting though.
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FWIW, Aidan did build his, but he has a high tolerance for experimenting, and is smarter than the average dope in terms of figuring out electrical bits. Recommending to everyone that they build their own MS and quoting prices really is only valid if someone does not place a value on their time.

For folks that DO place a value on their time, and the benefit of a guarantee and customer service and stuff, it's well worth the money of buying a nice, new, professionally-assembled one.

Hinano, an MS2e would have fit your needs, but at this point you have the Pro so you might as well run it. By the time you sell it and ship it you've eaten up half the difference and it's not worth it. The first part of your plan is sound -- put the MS on NA and tune it over the summer.

It's the second part that needs work. While you're putting it together, get some injectors and a cheap intercooler setup, like the one Deezums found. There's info about it in his thread.

You also don't need to buy expensive injectors. Here's some more info on PNP injectors:
Fuel Injectors - Miata Turbo FAQ

Do you have anyone nearby who can help you with the MS? Focus on that, as you plan to, NA, then worry about the injectors and intercooler later. You'll come around.
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The butthurt is becoming strong with this one.

I has a sad because he's a nice kid. I don't think he's stupid. Just a little naive.

Dude.

Please.

Listen.

The flaming will continue. bear it. take it like a man. Bite a rope and grin. Once you get past that, just install your MSpro and learn. You've got your turbo bits. take a year to finish gathering the stuff you need, and install it next year.

Resist the butthurt.

Or you can ragequit. Up to you.
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Bullies are people that want to hurt you, not help you.
Ignorance is not being able to distinguish between the two.
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Bullies are people that want to hurt you, not help you.
Ignorance is not being able to distinguish between the two.
Who u kiddin dude lol. From wiki

Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power. Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of social class, race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, appearance, behavior, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability.[1][2] If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.[3]

I'm not mad AT you bore being a bully, but don't get it mixed up, what yall doing is bullying. But it's a free country and I can protest your antisocial abusive behavior.
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It's not bullying. It's shaming you into making the correct choices for a reliable car and making you feel bad when ignoring the suggestions. The things usually being recommended are things that have been proven on this forum and many others. Parts are recommended because they work, not because they want to see you ruin a car. In the long run, buying poverty parts could cost you a lot more when they either fail, wear out prematurely, or disappoint you with their performance. If you want to listen, people will be kinder to you here. If you want to ask questions, receive good advice, and then do the opposite; prepare to have your *** hurt.

Buy once, cry once. If you can't afford it because the money isn't there yet, wait a bit. 160hp is a fine goal, low by the standards of the forum here, but fine. Just do it right, don't buy poverty ****, and keep it from looking like a clusterfucky piece of ****.
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Who u kiddin dude lol. From wiki

Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power. Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of social class, race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, appearance, behavior, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability.[1][2] If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.[3]

I'm not mad AT you bore being a bully, but don't get it mixed up, what yall doing is bullying. But it's a free country and I can protest your antisocial abusive behavior.

When your dog ***** on your carpet, do you reward it?
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Well, I tried.

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I didnt **** on anyone's carpet. And public shaming for what? Lol. I didn't ******* break the law and nothing I did so far here calls for"public shaming". Stop with the bullshit, Yall are just acting like ********. So what if I'm buying cheap parts, I get to tinker and check it out. It's part of my creative process. I didn't ask for advice on every aspect of my project and if someone wants to give advice, well sure I'll read it, but that doesn't change how one gives advice. Here in Hawaii, it's called Aloha. It means a lot of things but in this context, it means treat people with kindness. You want to be a good man?! BE KIND. that's my advice to a couple of you.
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They really are trying to help you, but if your keep contradicting yourself and continue being an "ask-hole" this is what happens.
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Ryu.

Nobody is asking for your advice, sir.

You came here for our advice.

You are not the first N00B to come in and try to make ******** stop being ********. It doesn't work, which is why I told you not to try. But just as with other advice, you're still not listening.

In for ragequit.
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I didnt **** on anyone's carpet. And public shaming for what? Lol. I didn't ******* break the law and nothing I did so far here calls for"public shaming". Stop with the bullshit, Yall are just acting like ********. So what if I'm buying cheap parts, I get to tinker and check it out. It's part of my creative process. I didn't ask for advice on every aspect of my project and if someone wants to give advice, well sure I'll read it, but that doesn't change how one gives advice. Here in Hawaii, it's called Aloha. It means a lot of things but in this context, it means treat people with kindness. You want to be a good man?! BE KIND. that's my advice to a couple of you.
What's the point of asking for advice, and being given advice, if you just ignore everything about it?

That doesn't make US ********, it makes the person who asks for input then just ignores it because reasons the *******.
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I just reread my posts in this thread because I don't particularly remember refusing advice aside from intercooler and injectors. In fact, I did buy a intercooler, and I have also taken the advice of considering to buy injectors, BUT, stock ones still could work so I want to atleast try it out. Regarding my first post, I actually asked if I should get a ms3, but no one said ms2 would be sufficient. I asked about shaft play with video, no advice. I asked about other stuff, and got advice, then I asked about the down pipe and no advice. The only thing we seem to be disagreeing with is ms3 is worth it, FOR ME. Yeah I don't want to blow my motor, but then why the hell are so many people not running ms and are perfectly happy? This is my only car and I have a moped so I can get around but I'm doing the best I can do, at the budget I have. If anyone is saying just wait to save money, well I don't want to wait for over half a year so maybe that is what makes me foolish. But even then, I still would insult people like Yall are doing. I feel bad for all the noobs u guys attack. It's sad that it's an encouraged culture here.
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I didnt **** on anyone's carpet. And public shaming for what? Lol. I didn't ******* break the law and nothing I did so far here calls for"public shaming". Stop with the bullshit, Yall are just acting like ********. So what if I'm buying cheap parts, I get to tinker and check it out. It's part of my creative process. I didn't ask for advice on every aspect of my project and if someone wants to give advice, well sure I'll read it, but that doesn't change how one gives advice. Here in Hawaii, it's called Aloha. It means a lot of things but in this context, it means treat people with kindness. You want to be a good man?! BE KIND. that's my advice to a couple of you.
YOLO.
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