What to do - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-29-2007, 11:37 PM   #1
Newb
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 3
Total Cats: 0
Default What to do

Hello im new to the whole miata scene, i just got a '94 miata from my neighbor and i was wonderin what are some things i could possibly do to get the most horsepower out of it. its a 1.8L and it is completely stock. im not worried about costs or anything like that and i was wanting to do a twin turbo but didnt know if it was a good idea or not


Thanks,
Matty boi
Matty_boi_245 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2007, 11:49 PM   #2
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 2,084
Total Cats: 0
Default

that twin turbo setup is a great idea, in fact, i don't think its ever been done before on a miata, it will probably be a lot more efficient then one turbo since its two, your pockets are deep be the first!
mazda/nissan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2007, 11:51 PM   #3
Senior Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 606
Total Cats: 0
Default

Check out the DIY FAQs at the top of this section. Or check out Flyin' Miata or BEGi for awesome full kits.
jasonrobo02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 12:38 AM   #4
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,847
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 01:17 AM   #5
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (5)
 
bryantaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: jacksonville, fl
Posts: 1,720
Total Cats: 0
Default

just do 4 small turbos.
bryantaylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 01:27 AM   #6
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

do 4 turbos and 4 throttles

That was #5000

Last edited by Ben; 11-30-2007 at 10:27 AM.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 01:30 AM   #7
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (5)
 
bryantaylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: jacksonville, fl
Posts: 1,720
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben View Post
do 4 turbos and 4 throttles
IRTTBS FTMFW!!!!!!
bryantaylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 08:24 AM   #8
Newb
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 3
Total Cats: 0
Default

what other things would add significant amounts of horsepower that i could do
Matty_boi_245 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 09:20 AM   #9
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 858
Total Cats: 0
Default

Turbo or supercharger. Nitrous is gay. There are your choices. Twin turbo can be done but it's too much trouble for too little benefit.

And dont even think of wasting your time with I/H/E. Minimal gains and overwhelmingly gay and most likely loud.
SloS13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 10:36 AM   #10
Elite Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Zabac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: High Point NC
Posts: 4,854
Total Cats: 8
Default

wow, you guys really trying to break him in huh?
the longer im here the more i like this ritual...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_boi_245 View Post
what other things would add significant amounts of horsepower that i could do
what do you consider significant HP? and what is your budget? what is the # ammount of $$ you are willing to spend now vs later...?
what does the car have done to it now? do you wear girls panties when no one can see you? are you related to hustler? have you ever turboed a car before? have you ever driven a turbo miata?
now answer those questions and you may get some help around here...
welcome to MTnet>Mnet lmfao
Zabac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 10:40 AM   #11
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,847
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

is 250% more hp with low boost significant?
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 11:02 AM   #12
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago (Over two miles from Wrigley Field. Fuck the Cubs. Fuck them in their smarmy goat-hole.)
Posts: 26,317
Total Cats: 1,914
Default

TurboTim, a member on this forum, has done a twin turbo setup. For a while a picture of it was his avatar. But Tim is a professional fabricator who likes to do this kind of thing just to make the rest of us sick with envy.

Realistically, you can make enough power with a single turbo to break any transmission Mazda has ever put into a passenger car. And from a more practical standpoint, a properly sized turbocharger, with adequate intercooling, fuel and timing management can easily make a safe, reliable 200 - 225 HP in a manner that is actually useful and drivable. It's always a trade-off of sorts- you could throw a GT55 turbo onto your engine an make 600 HP, but it would take days to spool up and probably explode during the second dyno pull.

I notice that you're in Texas. If you are serious about money being no object, I suggest you drive to Spring Branch (a bit north of San Antonio) and pay a visit to Bell Engineering. They are the big player in turbocharged Miatas, and offer a variety of pre-packaged kits ranging from mild (5 PSI, probably 150 HP or so) to, as they somewhat humorously put it, "military-grade" (probably 250 HP for starters.)

Here is their website: http://www.bellengineering.net

Lastly, I'm just going to come right out and say this. Your screen name is Matty_boi. That is totally, seriously gay. :gay:
Joe Perez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 11:31 AM   #13
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 858
Total Cats: 0
Default

My parents have a dog named Mattie. It can lick itself. What's your special ability?
SloS13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 11:49 AM   #14
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,281
Total Cats: 2
Default

Welcome and please just browse around abit and check this stuff out. We have all the flavors you could ever want. It is like the baskin Robbins of the Turbo miata world, taste everything and then determine if you have enough money to make your sundea the way you want to.
magnamx-5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 01:27 PM   #15
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,847
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnamx-5 View Post
Welcome and please just browse around abit and check this stuff out. We have all the flavors you could ever want. It is like the baskin Robbins of the Turbo miata world, taste everything and then determine if you have enough money to make your sundea the way you want to.

too cute richard :gay:
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 02:30 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,379
Total Cats: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_boi_245 View Post
Hello im new to the whole miata scene. Its a 1.8L and it is completely stock. im not worried about costs or anything like that.
If you aren't worried about costs, just call flying miata and hand them your wallet, they will empty it for you.

Mark
Markp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 08:33 PM   #17
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
AbeFM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 3,048
Total Cats: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markp View Post
If you aren't worried about costs, just call flying miata and hand them your wallet, they will empty it for you.

Mark
That's a bit harsh. :-) They will empty your wallet, but think of it as a service. The trick in most of this stuff is the sundry items. You think, ok, top of the line turbo kit, drop 6k. But then you'll want injectors. Then you'll NEED cooling, then you'll want an extraction hood, then a tranny. At that point, it's a bigger turbo, etc. Since you've goit that much invested, you might as well stroke the motor... And of course, brakes and suspension to stay on the road, bracing to keep the car together, and it's not hard to drop many many many times what the car is worth - and folks do it.

I'd suggest getting an idea of what you want to do before you do it. It will change, over time, but if you buy stuff at random you'll buy a lot of stuff over and waste money when you could be driving.

Also, few people have any idea just how fast a 200 hp miata is. Remember, they are only ~100-105 wheel horse power (~40 hp lost in the drive train) stock. So, going to 200 is literally DOUBLE.

My buddy is used to old cameros, and thought there was no point getting in a 200-300 hp car, since his 400 hp car wasn't even that quick, but he was mightily impressed.

Number one: Find a local miata club, or talk to whoever sells the kit you're going to buy, find someone who has a car and drive it. It answers a lot of questions very quickly.
AbeFM is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:58 PM.