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Old 07-26-2017, 01:33 AM
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At this point all I do is post memes
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Do you actually believe this?


Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Ps: your comment regarding academic training belies your lack of understanding on how the sciences are taught and tested. Just and fyi.
I said you lack a basic understanding.

Here we are on one of the last true scientific forums in existence. We collaboratively hypothesize, test and make conclusions based on the data we generate. Well, some of us do.

You used to not even be able to get any academic training without a basic understanding of what you were hoping to learn. Perhaps this is no longer the case, which would actually explain a lot.
Just FYI.

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​​​​​​​Thanks for the laugh though.
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Originally Posted by sonofthehill

Do you actually believe this?




I said you lack a basic understanding.

Here we are on one of the last true scientific forums in existence. We collaboratively hypothesize, test and make conclusions based on the data we generate. Well, some of us do.

You used to not even be able to get any academic training without a basic understanding of what you were hoping to learn. Perhaps this is no longer the case, which would actually explain a lot.
Just FYI.

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Thanks for the laugh though.
​​​​​​​Do you actually believe the bolded text above? You honestly can't be serious...
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I am rarely serious, but there is some truth to my statement. Don't be mad.
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
​​​​​​​Do you actually believe the bolded text above? You honestly can't be serious...
Yes.
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I can't tell if the lack of entitled noobs on here has actually led to some bizarro world where you're all left with reacting similarly to those actually trying.

You're obviously free to believe whatever you'd like of this community. If you think it's the last bastion of hope for forums maintaining the scientific method then I suppose that is your right....
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The fact that even you can safely double the power output of your Miata and enjoy it for years, is a testament to the quality science found here. Years of experimentation to develop what you now take for granted.

Kinda typical of modern day academic entitlement syndrome.

​​​​​​No offense man
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
I can't tell if the lack of entitled noobs on here has actually led to some bizarro world where you're all left with reacting similarly to those actually trying.

You're obviously free to believe whatever you'd like of this community. If you think it's the last bastion of hope for forums maintaining the scientific method then I suppose that is your right....
What other forums do you frequent that are like this one?

And

Are you actually trying? Like legitimately putting forth proper effort in researching, learning, applying, observing, recording, adjusting, and re-applying?
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Here or at school?

Enough jamming this thread.
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Originally Posted by sonofthehill
The fact that even you can safely double the power output of your Miata and enjoy it for years, is a testament to the quality science found here. Years of experimentation to develop what you now take for granted.

Kinda typical of modern day academic entitlement syndrome.

​​​​​​No offense man
Weird... I thought that was because of guys like Corky and the mazda folks that engineered the miata using parts that were on cars that already put out more power in both the US and Japanese markets.
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As a side note, you legitimately know nothing about me or what I do, where I've come from, and what I've accomplished. I'm sorry that you feel the need to hold onto whatever inferiority complex you have with ad hominem attacks. I'm pretty sure that the PM's we've exchanged on here in the past establish that I have nothing but respect for you and the other members here. I suppose I was under the impression that I'd be afforded the same courtesy.
Apparently not.

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What other forums do you frequent that are like this one?

And

Are you actually trying? Like legitimately putting forth proper effort in researching, learning, applying, observing, recording, adjusting, and re-applying?
The bike racing and SV650 forums I used to frequent come to mind right away.

You also realize that I don't post everything I do on here right? I have friends that I talk to about this stuff and regularly go over logs and tunes with them. Apparently the fact that I document a few of the 'duh' moments I have because I find them to be amusing as someone that is completely new to this have given you the impression that what I write about us all I do. Interesting.

I also spend a fair amount of time hanging out with friends that are subie mechanics who have been teaching me to wrench partially because they think it's hilarious that I'm even interested and partially because it's fun.

Of note: I've read a ton of posts written years ago by you, aidan, and other now senior members. Go revisit them sometime and see where you came from. And you actually had experience working on cars.

How many members actually spend the time trying to learn how to tune instead of just dropping the car off with a tuner? Obviously nothing wrong with that, but I'm guessing it's less than half the members.

Originally Posted by sonofthehill
Here or at school?

Enough jamming this thread.
Uh because you know oh so much about the latter?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder regarding academia (and busm lol). Show me on the doll where they hurt you.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Weird... I thought that was because of guys like Corky and the mazda folks that engineered the miata using parts that were on cars that already put out more power in both the US and Japanese markets.
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As a side note, you legitimately know nothing about me or what I do, where I've come from, and what I've accomplished. I'm sorry that you feel the need to hold onto whatever inferiority complex you have with ad hominem attacks. I'm pretty sure that the PM's we've exchanged on here in the past establish that I have nothing but respect for you and the other members here. I suppose I was under the impression that I'd be afforded the same courtesy.
Apparently not.



The bike racing and SV650 forums I used to frequent come to mind right away.

You also realize that I don't post everything I do on here right? I have friends that I talk to about this stuff and regularly go over logs and tunes with them. Apparently the fact that I document a few of the 'duh' moments I have because I find them to be amusing as someone that is completely new to this have given you the impression that what I write about us all I do. Interesting.

I also spend a fair amount of time hanging out with friends that are subie mechanics who have been teaching me to wrench partially because they think it's hilarious that I'm even interested and partially because it's fun.

Of note: I've read a ton of posts written years ago by you, aidan, and other now senior members. Go revisit them sometime and see where you came from. And you actually had experience working on cars.

How many members actually spend the time trying to learn how to tune instead of just dropping the car off with a tuner? Obviously nothing wrong with that, but I'm guessing it's less than half the members.



Uh because you know oh so much about the latter?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder regarding academia (and busm lol). Show me on the doll where they hurt you.
aww he mad

which posts? specifically
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Originally Posted by 18psi
aww he mad

which posts? specifically
Not mad actually. There are plenty of things that are actually worth worrying about. I suppose you guys haven't had your weekly dose of 'tearing a newb a new one' so by all means enjoy yourselves.

Which posts? Jesus. You want me to go back through all the the threads I've read on this site? You legitimately have no idea how much I've actually searched and read through lol. Regardless, many of you have forgotten what it took to get you to where you are today.
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Don't be mad, just razzin' ya.
It's true I do have a chip on my shoulder about BUSM and modern academia. They never hurt me, upper level BUSM are just crooked and unethical. I know because I used to hang out with a bunch of them, like you hang out with Subaru mechanics. I also see that modern academia is full of administrators, just trying to keep themselves employed by selling degrees and treating students like cash cow customers. You don't see this because you are a student and they hide it from most people(especially students.)
You know very little about me too. I don't wish to make you mad Rish, just my opinion about modern academia. We still love and respect you for being part of our community

But again, enough jamming this thread. We can have this discussion in your build thread.
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Responded to your post in my thread. It needed some love anyway.
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Update: Had car tuned at York Automotive in Mt. Airy, MD
Car feels very strong. The print out seems weird though since it only has HP and not Torque.
Also, there seems to be a torque dip between 4000 and 4800 RPM
What do yall think?
194 Whp@ 6000 RPM
183.86 FtLb @ 5000 RPM

Attached are the two printouts I was given and an excel graph of the printout.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:35 AM
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How much boost? Same as your OP? Torque dip is strange and your motor seems to be falling on its face a bit too hard past 6k. I didn't think NA8 heads were that bad...
Is the car still hitting 14 psi sub 4k then tapering down? Could explain the torque dip.
Also lol @ my chatter upthread.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
How much boost? Same as your OP? Torque dip is strange and your motor seems to be falling on its face a bit too hard past 6k. I didn't think NA8 heads were that bad...
Is the car still hitting 14 psi sub 4k then tapering down? Could explain the torque dip.
Also lol @ my chatter upthread.
Im pretty sure it still hits 14psi and then drops to about 12.
The dyno print out did not provide vacuum/boost numbers or AFR values.
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Old 02-25-2018, 10:49 PM
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170 foot pounds of torque from 3800 to 6000 sounds pretty reasonable for such a small turbo. I'm sure it could benefit from some additional tuning in tweaking and probably some efficiency upgrades. A 3in exhaust, catalytic converter delete, and a free-flowing muffler will help any turbo car.
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