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IcantDo55 03-25-2008 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 233508)
I think you open a vex with megasquirt. It'll import only the timing table versus importing an entire .msq with all the settings that may not be right for you application.

I love you Mach929.

Oh ok. I'm @ work with no MS software on this computer.

Anyone post a screen shot of the table? I'm stuck here till 4am.

Braineack 03-25-2008 09:26 PM

mike add a .1uF cap on js8 and GND.

here was my timing table:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/timing/newtiming1.jpg

I've gone as high as this:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/timing/diytiming.jpg

IcantDo55 03-25-2008 10:20 PM

"mike add a .1uF cap on js8 and GND"

Ok. Whats it going to solve?

paul 03-25-2008 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 227919)
Its got a hickup at about 4500 rpm that we could not iron out, popular answer was that it was an ignition miss and would be solved by closing up spark plug gap or new coils. I'm open to ideas. The tach jumps when it happins.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 227988)
add a .1uF cap from js8 to ground. gap plugs at .30"


:useless: <-dyno plots that is.


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 227990)
Whats the cap going to do?


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 227991)
filter the tach signal a bit, it's all the rage.


anyone have any guesses?

samnavy 03-25-2008 10:50 PM

I have roughly that same issue but it's between 3500 and 4200 where I get rich spikes even though the fuel table is smooth...

I'll check spark gap first to see if that helps... but I get scared when you guys start getting all electrical on me. WTF does .1uF mean? I guess just tell me I can get one at Radio Shack.

Jefe 03-25-2008 11:14 PM

PLEASE LISTEN TO SCOTT and add the cap!!!!

It filters/smooths out the tach signal AND IT WILL WORK. It took the inventors of MS to figure this out (Per Jerry@ Autotune).

BTDT...

Last pic in post 2 shows where and how.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13676

paul 03-25-2008 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 233583)
I have roughly that same issue but it's between 3500 and 4200 where I get rich spikes even though the fuel table is smooth...

I'll check spark gap first to see if that helps... but I get scared when you guys start getting all electrical on me. WTF does .1uF mean? I guess just tell me I can get one at Radio Shack.


yes you can. i just picked up a pack of 5 for like $2

Mach929 03-25-2008 11:19 PM

is this "adding a cap" thing also valid for mspnp models?

paul 03-25-2008 11:21 PM

yup,if not done by DIY already. my august version of the 94/95pnp didn't have it yet. i never had any hiccups but i added it when going to HiRes

Jefe 03-25-2008 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by Mach929 (Post 233601)
is this "adding a cap" thing also valid for mspnp models?


IIRC: You have have to check w/ DIY on that one, This hiccup didn't come to light til they were working on the 96/97 mspnp, I doubt earlier versions have it and it's not consistent between cars.

samnavy 03-25-2008 11:28 PM

Piece of cake fuckers... add this to my weekend list of Miata shit.

1. Pull Valve Cover.
2. JBWeld nuts for COP holdowns.
3. Clean, sand, paint Valve Cover.
4. Gap plugs
5. Add J8 resistor.
6. Install COP's, test (maybe adjust cranking pulse-width).
7. Clean intercooler and hit it with some flat black.
8. Fab up seatback mounting bracket for uber-seat (seat currently held in by twine).
9. Seriously consider new timing map.
10. Finally get down to LongShots and have a beer.

Jefe 03-25-2008 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 233609)
Piece of cake fuckers... add this to my weekend list of Miata shit.

1. Pull Valve Cover.
2. JBWeld nuts for COP holdowns.
3. Clean, sand, paint Valve Cover.
4. Gap plugs
5. Add J8 resistor.
6. Install COP's, test (maybe adjust cranking pulse-width).
7. Clean intercooler and hit it with some flat black.
8. Fab up seatback mounting bracket for uber-seat (seat currently held in by twine).
9. Seriously consider new timing map.
10. Finally get down to LongShots and have a beer.

You forgot build DET can to help w/ your timing tune ;)

samnavy 03-26-2008 08:36 AM

What's a DET can?

OH yah, and I need to do the research on a CATCH CAN since a "guy" I know swears I'm burning oil even though I'm not.

Braineack 03-26-2008 08:43 AM

http://i29.tinypic.com/10mn9eq.jpg

http://www.boostedmiata.com/MS/1uf_cap.jpg

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

Ben 03-26-2008 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 233609)
5. Add J8 capacitor.

Fixed


Originally Posted by Jefe (Post 233605)
IIRC: You have have to check w/ DIY on that one, This hiccup didn't come to light til they were working on the 96/97 mspnp, I doubt earlier versions have it and it's not consistent between cars.

My car needs it. Has a random misfire event that tends to occur when at high speed cruise (70-85mph). Some days, it won't happen. Other days, it'll do it 3-5 times. Hoping that this cap clears it up. As soon as I get my MB back (again) I'll be doing this.

bbrbob 03-26-2008 09:16 AM

My 1990 suffered from this missfire as well so it's not just the later models. I fitted the thingy widget to my MSPNP and it cured it completely.

samnavy 03-26-2008 09:30 AM

I am so stoked to find out about this... I had no fucking clue what was causing this thing... just a random-no-reason rich spikes betweem 3500-4200rpm that nothing would fix. I'll be sure to post results.

IcantDo55 03-26-2008 09:33 AM

Sorry all. I know you told me of the cap before but when you said it would fix the "tach signal" I just thought it would solve the tach on the dash jumping at that RPM and I knew there was a seat of the pants miss too. So I though the dyno would show that it was a power loss problem not just a tach issue. Again sorry.

NOW BACK THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM!!!!

Where The F**CK is My 50 other horsepower????

Braineack 03-26-2008 10:02 AM

what was your AFR? your fuel map looks hella rich.

it's quite possible that the loaded dyno had heavy corrections on it....I betcha if you go back to the original dyno you'll have more power.

IcantDo55 03-26-2008 10:17 AM

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I though AF looked good :dunno:


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