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Old 08-30-2018, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by brainzata
Without even posting this you could have found out yourself, by actually researching. That everyone would recommend the TSE EFR kit. Or you would find facts about other yay or nay turbo kits. Along with all info on what you need to upgrade and what parts to focus on or which to ignore. There is literally everything you need to know via search box or google, if you wouldn't be a lazy *** and demand to be spoonfed by creating a thread no different than tons of others. If I can find everything I needed to know since 2011 without asking a single question, it's sad you are doing so right off the bat.
well thanks for your input and yeah it was a sad and lazy *** move but hey I got very useful information that I知 acknowledging what people and understanding more about what is necessary and unnecessary
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Originally Posted by viperormiata
FYI when Greg ***** up he comes here asking for advice and then we laugh at him. Then he goes on youtube to "fix" his car with the information he gets here and doesn't plug us. He has to shill to pay the bills.
To be honest, you probably don't want most of his viewers coming here asking the same questions over and over again. Greg's build is entertaining, semi-informative, and he does a good job of telling his viewers to research before they copy. Sadly many don't listen.
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Originally Posted by Midtenn
To be honest, you probably don't want most of his viewers coming here asking the same questions over and over again. Greg's build is entertaining, semi-informative, and he does a good job of telling his viewers to research before they copy. Sadly many don't listen.
yes that is true about him telling viewers to research and well I知 just trying to gain some knowledge which I have throughout this whole thread.
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What have you learned so far?
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
What have you learned so far?
that for compression ratio for at least pump gas is ideally 8.6:1 83.5mm bore, from what Savington put.it as trying to running what I asked (83mm bore with 9.5:1 C.R. ) was not logically or even possible on pump gas simply cause no one supplies that sized forged piston and with pump gas it will be a nightmare to run that kind of set up. Using a twin scroll would hinder performance so a ss will be ideal in the set up. Take my time and enjoy the build and not to this in a whole week so I can enjoy it. Don稚 expect cause someone else痴 build to be the same result or to mimic cause the importance of it is being unique. 15x9 will be a better fit for tires and that I should致e bought xidas. All in all this thread gave me some good knowledge so thank you to everyone who put their input
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Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster
yeah it was a sad and lazy *** move but hey I got very useful information
Millennials ...

I build my 320 whp car purely based on research and information found on this forum. Yes, it's a tedious task, but in the end you will wind up understanding WHY you did what you did, where the weak spots are and what to avoid.

That doesn't mean you aren't up for mistakes (buying a competition clutch stage 4 instead of FM happy happy meal *cough*). But OTOH it also doesn't mean that one must act dumber than one already is, as we say in Austria.
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Originally Posted by Eunos91
Millennials ...

I build my 320 whp car purely based on research and information found on this forum. Yes, it's a tedious task, but in the end you will wind up understanding WHY you did what you did, where the weak spots are and what to avoid.

That doesn't mean you aren't up for mistakes (buying a competition clutch stage 4 instead of FM happy happy meal *cough*). But OTOH it also doesn't mean that one must act dumber than one already is, as we say in Austria.
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Actually not a millennial but I can see why you say that though. Yeah mistakes are going to inevitable and this is my first Miata and build so not trying to act dumb. I knew which wheels were ideal (didn稚 know what size preferable) but didn稚 know a whole lot of knowledge but know I do (as you can see on the thread).
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It takes a lot of time to dig into people's threads and process what failures they encountered. But investing a bit of time reading about setups and the difficult roads taken to achieve reliability/consistency /closure helps jump start your own build on the right path. You get to skip forward to the juicy stuff, but know why it came to be.

We're all standing on the shoulder of giants. We've evolved from where we've been based on the trials and tribulations of others. That's why we hardly push certain products or vendors who haven't kept up with the times.

A quick hint, follow vendors who are active on the boards, who constantly develop for the miata platform and who race these cars competitively.

Start a build thread, it would be cool to have pictures.
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There's also the Kraken kit if you're looking for a cast manifold. He sells the accompanying downpipe and full exhaust as well.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
A quick hint, follow vendors who are active on the boards, who constantly develop for the miata platform and who race these cars competitively.

Start a build thread, it would be cool to have pictures.
Yeah well I learned that lesson the hard way (buying the powertrix coilovers). Savington is super active of the boards as well as everyone who has put their knowledge on this thread.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
There's also the Kraken kit if you're looking for a cast manifold. He sells the accompanying downpipe and full exhaust as well.
already settled on the TSE Turbo kit, efr 6258, iron cast manifold, with coolant/oil line plus mid pipe with hardware . cant beat the price
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Good choice. Add a big oil cooler and ducting, and you should make reliable power. Given that you sorted out the fueling and built the engine (rods, pistons, bearing, BE oil pump)
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Originally Posted by Eunos91
Good choice. Add a big oil cooler and ducting, and you should make reliable power. Given that you sorted out the fueling and built the engine (rods, pistons, bearing, BE oil pump)
Yeah hopefully all goes well for future of my car haha
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Originally Posted by 04MiataNoobster

already settled on the TSE Turbo kit, efr 6258, iron cast manifold
Our manifold is stainless cast. 347, in fact. Not iron. We are the only MFG offering a cast stainless manifold for the Miata AFAIK. Important distinction
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Originally Posted by Savington
Our manifold is stainless cast. 347, in fact. Not iron. We are the only MFG offering a cast stainless manifold for the Miata AFAIK. Important distinction
my bad didn稚 realize what I typed and thanks for the advice.
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There's a kit in the classifieds if you're interested in it.
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https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...and-new-97985/
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What did I just read...smells like your chasing a dream. JK! Good Luck with build....but here is your msm with trackspeed efr, skunk2 manifold, and artech exhaust. YOUR DREAM IS HERE...
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One of the things that I would submit for you, truly is how hard it is to learn everything you need to know about tuning using an aftermarket ECU. It is certainly easier than ever these days with more intuitive features etc but the fundamental problem is that you have full control of your motor and any change you make affects whether it starts, idles, misfires, or sweeps through the revs at your target AFRs. It's hard. The 6 step process outlined in this forum isnt a short one.

I bring this up because I certainly did my best to seek advice and chase my dream and detonated a brand new built BP4W. Not a cheap thing to do and certainly not worth repeating without respect for the process. My advice, before you buy your first piece of turbo gear, clutch, or exhaust part. Buy an MS3 basic or MS3Pro pnp. Ensure you have the firmware you want, install a wideband o2 sensor with solid grounding and drive it for a month or two.
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Originally Posted by soospecmx5
What did I just read...smells like your chasing a dream. JK! Good Luck with build....but here is your msm with trackspeed efr, skunk2 manifold, and artech exhaust. YOU DREAM IS HERE...
that looks gorgeous and unfortunately Artech is retired I had received an email saying he no longer does any more work. It overall sweet build I know mine will take some time trying to piece it all together
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