400whp motor build plan? tweak it please
#61
is there a reason holset chargers have not been brought up? they are proven for some big power and thanks to the DSM world you can get a variety of hot side ARs im planning on going holset hx 35 on the bulls eye performance turbine housing thats a direct fir for dsm's. shooting for the same amount of power. the small hot side give quick spool making it a decent daily.
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is there a reason holset chargers have not been brought up? they are proven for some big power and thanks to the DSM world you can get a variety of hot side ARs im planning on going holset hx 35 on the bulls eye performance turbine housing thats a direct fir for dsm's. shooting for the same amount of power. the small hot side give quick spool making it a decent daily.
#63
Do the Holsets use the standard t2 or t3 flange? If not that would be why we do not use them. People tend to go for what is known in the miata world. Also up until the past few years there were very little selection in custom made manifolds that would offer a different flange.
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Do the Holsets use the standard t2 or t3 flange? If not that would be why we do not use them. People tend to go for what is known in the miata world. Also up until the past few years there were very little selection in custom made manifolds that would offer a different flange.
#65
bullseye performance makes them with a mitsu 16g flange and a .55 ar hot side
http://www.bullseyepower.com/u_turbine_housings.asp
http://www.bullseyepower.com/u_turbine_housings.asp
#66
8000/6000 = 1.33
4000-6000 RPM is "1.5x", way wider:
6000/4000 = 1.5
So to duplicate a 4000-7000 powerband with a car that has peak power at 8500:
7000/4000 = 1.75x
8500 / 1.75 = 4860
So you will need 90% of peak torque available from 4860 to 8500, with the same peak power, to duplicate the performance of Savington's 2871 setup. You will also need shorter gearing to match the higher revs.
You won't get it with a car with the powerband from 5500 to 8500. (thinking that 7k-4k = 3k, and 8.5k-3k = 5.5k)
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So you will need 90% of peak torque available from 4860 to 8500, with the same peak power, to duplicate the performance of Savington's 2871 setup. You will also need shorter gearing to match the higher revs.
You won't get it with a car with the powerband from 5500 to 8500. (thinking that 7k-4k = 3k, and 8.5k-3k = 5.5k)
You won't get it with a car with the powerband from 5500 to 8500. (thinking that 7k-4k = 3k, and 8.5k-3k = 5.5k)
Nice math.
Savington's setup is not god's gift to miatas. Stop slobbing the 2871 ****
#70
Generally though the higher the boost the narrower the powerband.
A drag car won't need as wide of a powerband as a track car, which in turn doesn't need as wide as a street car needs.
Having said that, a theoretical setup that would match Sav's spoolup but rises to a higher peak and holds it to 7000, will have a "narrower powerband" but would match and exceed Sav's torque at all RPMs, and thus would be faster.
#71
Each car serves a specific purpose, none of these cars are some crazy new concept or any of that kinda bullshit. Going big as **** with oober expensive parts to create a highway/dyno queen is nothing new. Its badass, but I'll bet most on here don't even care.
On top of that neither you nor jason has run anything at all at the track yet, so if anything the person with most authority on straightline performance in this thread is JayL and a very few others that actually went 11's and trapped over 120.
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Neither is Jasons or yours, so wtf is your point?
Each car serves a specific purpose, none of these cars are some crazy new concept or any of that kinda bullshit. Going big as **** with oober expensive parts to create a highway/dyno queen is nothing new. Its badass, but I'll bet most on here don't even care.
On top of that neither you nor jason has run anything at all at the track yet,
Each car serves a specific purpose, none of these cars are some crazy new concept or any of that kinda bullshit. Going big as **** with oober expensive parts to create a highway/dyno queen is nothing new. Its badass, but I'll bet most on here don't even care.
On top of that neither you nor jason has run anything at all at the track yet,
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You're right. The miata world should be content with making less horsepower than stock cars. Frankly, you and all the other 200/300/400hp champions sound old and conservative and closeminded. You all are just another breed of the types at miata.net.
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ok champ
If we're being frank here, the same exact thing can be said about you and j: you both sound like broken records every day saying we're all old and outdated and happy with a "MEDIOCRE" 400whp miata while you two are like Christopher Columbus discovering new worlds and ****.
The ironic part is that neither one of you has gone much past 400 yet either but act like you've already got numerous 900whp dyno plots
But ILU both, despite the fa66otree.
If we're being frank here, the same exact thing can be said about you and j: you both sound like broken records every day saying we're all old and outdated and happy with a "MEDIOCRE" 400whp miata while you two are like Christopher Columbus discovering new worlds and ****.
The ironic part is that neither one of you has gone much past 400 yet either but act like you've already got numerous 900whp dyno plots
But ILU both, despite the fa66otree.