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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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So the running hypothesis at the moment is that the hangers I'm using is transmitting the noise into the trunk and cabin on the midpipe/muffler. The Miata Roadster shifter kit came with new sound deadening material for the boot and this has helped a lot with heat I used to feel radiating. But sound is unaffected. I also don't have that felt material under my carpet because base model. That would be a project for a new carpet install to get MLV and some CCF to decouple.

I have yet to switch back to rubber mounts with hose clamp and zip ties, but the car is definitely quieter on the outside. I took some acoustic foam and cut blocks off to pack under the package tray cover by the rear sway bar mount points and this surprisingly helped. I feel as though I placed the urethane mounts on the car for a reason because 3" pipe was banging around everywhere over wiggles and jiggles, but I may leave the rear most two mounts urethane while switching the rest back to rubber. Using the mega 4th mount made by Shuiend, and the stocker by the muffler tip, the urethane bushing should allow some transverse stiffness but due to stiffer boundary conditions being at the end of the car, and not attached to the subframe where it can vibrate midplane, shouldn't introduce as much vibration into the trunk where it may hit that nice ~113Hz resonance. I am planning to reupholster the package tray since I switched roll bars and will probably refresh the deadening there.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
So the running hypothesis at the moment is that the hangers I'm using is transmitting the noise into the trunk and cabin on the midpipe/muffler. The Miata Roadster shifter kit came with new sound deadening material for the boot and this has helped a lot with heat I used to feel radiating. But sound is unaffected. I also don't have that felt material under my carpet because base model. That would be a project for a new carpet install to get MLV and some CCF to decouple.

I have yet to switch back to rubber mounts with hose clamp and zip ties, but the car is definitely quieter on the outside. I took some acoustic foam and cut blocks off to pack under the package tray cover by the rear sway bar mount points and this surprisingly helped. I feel as though I placed the urethane mounts on the car for a reason because 3" pipe was banging around everywhere over wiggles and jiggles, but I may leave the rear most two mounts urethane while switching the rest back to rubber. Using the mega 4th mount made by Shuiend, and the stocker by the muffler tip, the urethane bushing should allow some transverse stiffness but due to stiffer boundary conditions being at the end of the car, and not attached to the subframe where it can vibrate midplane, shouldn't introduce as much vibration into the trunk where it may hit that nice ~113Hz resonance. I am planning to reupholster the package tray since I switched roll bars and will probably refresh the deadening there.
I stopped recommending polyurethane hangers to my customers because several of them had the hangers stretch due to them heating up. With the rubber ones and hose clamps, no more issues. I am not sure if that will change vibrations or not.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by shuiend
Y8Spec has also been known to build axle backs with the mt.net approved muffler and he is local.
yes but that shop is snooty and charges a lot. prices double in winter because no garage!
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Oh yea, I forgot to mention, I now run MT.net approved muffler. Car is quieter on the outside, but the same on the inside.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
Oh yea, I forgot to mention, I now run MT.net approved muffler. Car is quieter on the outside, but the same on the inside.
welcome to old age.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
You want an awesome exhaust? Go copy EO2K's.
To date, his is the tamest I've experienced in a 3" exhaust miata.
Mine with the SPRING LOADED FLAPPER is tamer!!
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
You want an awesome exhaust? Go copy EO2K's.
To date, his is the tamest I've experienced in a 3" exhaust miata.
Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
Mine with the SPRING LOADED FLAPPER is tamer!!


It'll give 18psi wet dreams

I'd actually add a flapper to mine, for the lulz, if someone would point out where I could buy one without cutting up an Evo8 muffler.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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Here's the relevant spot in EO2K's thread. I looked it up because I was curious.

https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...9/#post1232036
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Exhaust itself isn't loud though.
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
welcome to old age.
Truth, I need a non-Miata daily
Old Dec 7, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
Truth, I need a non-Miata daily
find your local police surplus auction and grab a crown vic for under $500. I'm finding it to be a great life decision so far.
Old Dec 10, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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Have you tried blocking the two tunnels on either side fo the gas tank?
Apparently a lot of noise comes up through the trunk, bounces around, and gets sent into the cabin via those tunnels. I've read some threads of people filling them will insulation with good results.

Disclaimer: I haven't done this myself.... yet
Old Dec 10, 2016 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanadian
Have you tried blocking the two tunnels on either side fo the gas tank?
Apparently a lot of noise comes up through the trunk, bounces around, and gets sent into the cabin via those tunnels. I've read some threads of people filling them will insulation with good results.

Disclaimer: I haven't done this myself.... yet
I did, it helps a TON.
Old Dec 10, 2016 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
I did, it helps a TON.
What did you use in it?
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Some closed cell foam I bought at walmart. It was blue and cheap, in sporting good area.
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