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18psi 07-24-2012 05:30 PM

or Himni (sp?) is FOS

yank 07-24-2012 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 907565)
Well.
... So I don't know yet and won't be able to tell for sure until I get in touch with BW directly.

I'm already on it. Unfortunately i called 3 of their offices and tried several of their extensions and only got ahold of a secretary that knew nothing about turbos. Everyone else (customer support, warranty claims) went to voicemail. I'm pretty sure i called during their business hours (3CST) so i don't know whats up. I'll try tomorrow a little earlier i guess.

If what Himni Racing is true thats a game changer for sure.

yank 07-24-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 907573)
You guys remember that time soviet turned down a really awesome free turbo from Garrett because BW was supposed to be so much better then got focked by BW? I hope not.

I lol'd. Cuz is true. :rofl:

blaen99 07-24-2012 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by yank (Post 907575)
I'm already on it. Unfortunately i called 3 of their offices and tried several of their extensions and only got ahold of a secretary that knew nothing about turbos. Everyone else (customer support, warranty claims) went to voicemail. I'm pretty sure i called during their business hours (3CST) so i don't know whats up. I'll try tomorrow a little earlier i guess.

If what Himni Racing is true thats a game changer for sure.

I'd point to Sav's post however. I'd trust Sav a thousand fold more than Himni - and Himni's giving a textbook vendor scam of "Okay, we'll give you a discount, so buy more ---- from us since your old ---- went bad!"

shuiend 07-24-2012 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by yank (Post 907575)
I'm already on it. Unfortunately i called 3 of their offices and tried several of their extensions and only got ahold of a secretary that knew nothing about turbos. Everyone else (customer support, warranty claims) went to voicemail. I'm pretty sure i called during their business hours (3CST) so i don't know whats up. I'll try tomorrow a little earlier i guess.

If what Himni Racing is true thats a game changer for sure.

You and soviet should shoot me a pm, I will get you the contact info I have for some engineers and a phone number that should get to someone.

Bryce 07-24-2012 06:18 PM

Well, ----.

soviet 07-24-2012 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 907592)
Well, ----.

Hey, look at the bright side - at least you have $0 invested into EFR right now :rofl:

soviet 07-24-2012 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 907585)
You and soviet should shoot me a pm, I will get you the contact info I have for some engineers and a phone number that should get to someone.

Well.... Internet detective time.

There's Brock Fraser - Director of Advanced Application Development.
He's the guy who, apparently, runs the whole EFR program and is the author of the "EFR Technical Training Guide", aka "EFR Bible" document. Drives a 993 turbo.

Then there's Doug Erber - Engineering Director. He's actually a member here and *used to* have a miata - it was listed for sale here
https://www.miataturbo.net/cars-sale...a-$6500-58322/

Both work in the BW North Carolina office. I really don't want to bother either of them - I want customer relations or marketing or something of that sort.

hustler 07-24-2012 07:02 PM

Clearly this was an attorney based decision, not a decision from anyone in marketing nor engineering.

soviet 07-24-2012 07:10 PM

If it was an attorney, he should be fired.

Braineack 07-24-2012 07:38 PM

1 Attachment(s)
fact: this turbine has been impacted by a foreign object.

fact #2: I dynoed after the fact.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343173096


fact #3: haha

soviet 07-25-2012 11:50 PM

Ok so faith in EFR - restored.
Got an email today. I emailed BW directly earlier and I guess that -or- this thread got around. I was asked not to post the whole email, so here's the cliff notes:

- BW doesn't deny claims like this.
- Himni never contacted BW and are not a BW partner/distributor. BW doesn't even know who they are, lol

What did I gather from this whole experience with Himni? If you want a "fresh to the market" turbo, buy it from authorized retailers. In this case, from Full Race.

sixshooter 07-26-2012 12:17 AM

Yay! FR! My heroes!

And he and Fae lived happily ever after. The end.

soviet 07-26-2012 12:28 AM

I posted this question in my build thread but might as well ask here too.

Thinking of switching from EFR 6258 to EFR 6758. So I can say my Miata is an Indy car (Indy chassis runs twin 6758)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343274796
vs
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343274796

18psi 07-26-2012 08:09 AM

Why not..

I would :)


Also this proves our suspicions that HIMNI = SACKS OF CRAP SHADY A$$HOLES

y8s 07-26-2012 09:39 AM

I so want to see Himni's response to calling him out on his shady dealings.

But I suspect his response will be: :inout:

Braineack 07-26-2012 09:43 AM

how much boost are you running Lenoldator?

18psi 07-26-2012 10:25 AM

1 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by y8s (Post 908196)
I so want to see Himni's response to calling him out on his shady dealings.

But I suspect his response will be: :inout:

Response word for word:


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343312756

sixshooter 07-26-2012 11:44 AM

The first chart (unlabeled) is far more efficient for a greater part of it's usable area. And it has more usable area total. But where do you expect to be drawing a dissection line through the chart with your engine?

Braineack 07-26-2012 11:46 AM

the second turbo makes sense for a twin setup. low boost, high flow, heavy right sloped surge line.


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