Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: KPower

Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix

Old 04-12-2012, 01:32 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
BogusSVO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Pensacola Fla.
Posts: 588
Total Cats: 203
Thumbs up Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix

Oil filter cut away Fram & WIX










Fram on left, Wix on right



The Fram bypass valve, also notice the cardboard end caps


See the wix filter media mount on the right, Fram has a gasket

Attached Thumbnails Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4636.jpg   Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4637.jpg   Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4638.jpg   Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4639.jpg   Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4640.jpg  

Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4641.jpg   Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-dscf4642.jpg  
BogusSVO is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 01:38 AM
  #2  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
chpmnsws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Springfield IL
Posts: 2,712
Total Cats: 25
Default

We have the Fram, Wix, and ACDelco filters all lined up next to each other on our shelf.... At our green counter store

BTW- is this an older picture? I don't think pre-mix has been that price in awhile.
chpmnsws6 is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 01:49 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
BogusSVO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Pensacola Fla.
Posts: 588
Total Cats: 203
Default

Grab some pics of the delco filter and post them up here!
Be good to see how it looks.

The pics could be a year or two old.... I stumbled across them this eve and posted this.
BogusSVO is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 01:52 AM
  #4  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
chpmnsws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Springfield IL
Posts: 2,712
Total Cats: 25
Default

Will do.
chpmnsws6 is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 02:03 AM
  #5  
Elite Member
iTrader: (37)
 
EO2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Very NorCal
Posts: 10,441
Total Cats: 1,899
Default

Thanks for posting this, no one believes me when I tell them the orange FRAM filters use cardboard internals.

I've got a used K&N on the bench, I'll see if I can remember to cut it open later this week without making a huge mess
EO2K is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 09:10 AM
  #6  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Please someone, interpret what I am looking at.
Faeflora is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 09:22 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (13)
 
lsc224's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 534
Total Cats: 8
Default

Interested to see the Purolator too.
lsc224 is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 09:36 AM
  #8  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
m2cupcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,482
Total Cats: 372
Default

Also of note is all the crap the frame has at the base where oil enters the filter- that can't be good for flow.

Rockauto was selling Miata "white box" WIX filters for <$3 for a while- all gone now. Another option is the German made MANN filters which are in stock and less than $3. I use these on the Benz after seeing some cutaway comparisons- though I can't find them atm. They've also have Mahle for <$5 another quality filter. Seems the better filters generally cost less than the big name crap.
Attached Thumbnails Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-filterbase.jpg  
m2cupcar is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 09:54 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
ianferrell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Maumelle, AR
Posts: 613
Total Cats: 3
Default

my local wal-mart just started carrying purolater filters.... Not many different options (didn't have the honda filter I needed) But they're actually cheaper than the fram garbage, I'm really hoping this isn't some trial they're going to cancel...
ianferrell is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 10:02 AM
  #10  
Antisaint
iTrader: (17)
 
Vashthestampede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Danbury, CT
Posts: 4,564
Total Cats: 58
Default

I primarily use Purolator or Mobil 1 filters.

Years back when bobtheoilguy was getting popular I remember some of these cutaway threads spreading around teh web.

Anytime I see someone buying a fram filter I know right away they're a ------- moron.

"Ohh let me save myself $3 and get the cheapest filter on the shelf", that seems logical when putting it on my car I use and depend on daily.
Vashthestampede is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:04 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
karter74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 684
Total Cats: 23
Default

I believe the NAPA gold filters are identical to the Wix filters, FYI.
karter74 is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:09 AM
  #12  
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

Napa Gold and Platinum are made by WIX.

I'm runnin' Platinum on the Miata personally. Amazing filter for extended OCI.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:11 AM
  #13  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
Anytime I see someone buying a fram filter I know right away they're a ------- moron.

"Ohh let me save myself $3 and get the cheapest filter on the shelf", that seems logical when putting it on my car I use and depend on daily.
And yet do you know what the failure vs success rate of them is?

If millions of people use them (and they do) and there's only a few documented incidents of failure I'd say they're not as bad as some people seem to think they are.

I use K&N filters on my performance cars, but have been putting FRAM filters on our daly's for years without a single issue. Filter gets replaced every 3k miles along with oil. I dunno, I guess I'm a moron
18psi is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:16 AM
  #14  
Antisaint
iTrader: (17)
 
Vashthestampede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Danbury, CT
Posts: 4,564
Total Cats: 58
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi
And yet do you know what the failure vs success rate of them is?

If millions of people use them (and they do) and there's only a few documented incidents of failure I'd say they're not as bad as some people seem to think they are.

I use K&N filters on my performance cars, but have been putting FRAM filters on our daly's for years without a single issue. Filter gets replaced every 3k miles along with oil. I dunno, I guess I'm a moron
Sorry bro, didn't write down the stats 5 years ago when I read them.

All I know is I've read plenty of threads, articles, etc on fram filters. So ever since then, I've based an opinion on them and their user.

Don't be mad.

Really though, why try and save the $3 on an oil filter?

When I do an oil change the ---- costs me like $50 at least, meanwhile you can go to jerkofflube and get it done for $19.99 while you stare at the girl's **** at the front counter.
Vashthestampede is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:34 AM
  #15  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

mad? lol

And its not really about the money either, just a couple bux difference, just that I get my oil from Wally World and don't feel like making an extra trip to the local car store for a filter for a lowly civic/corolla/etc.. I'm not here to argue for fram filters, cause frankly IDGAF, but I just think that this is all a little overdramatized is all.
18psi is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:35 AM
  #16  
AFM Crusader
iTrader: (19)
 
olderguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wayne, NJ
Posts: 4,666
Total Cats: 336
Default

Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
meanwhile you can go to jerkofflube and get it done for $19.99 while you stare at the girl's **** at the front counter.
Pics?
olderguy is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:39 AM
  #17  
Antisaint
iTrader: (17)
 
Vashthestampede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Danbury, CT
Posts: 4,564
Total Cats: 58
Default

Originally Posted by olderguy
Pics?
I have good mental ones. Not sure how to upload them though. lol

A handful of times we wouldn't have time to do the oil changes on the company GMC's, so they'd have me take them to jiffylube around the corner. Super hot girl worked the counter and every time I went I'd flirt with her.

I'm sure they put her up there on purpose.
Vashthestampede is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 11:54 AM
  #18  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Doppelgänger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,850
Total Cats: 71
Default

I buy Mazda filters...wish I could still get the black ones though.
Doppelgänger is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 12:05 PM
  #19  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
m2cupcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,482
Total Cats: 372
Default

jiffylube girls:

Attached Thumbnails Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix-joyegriffin.jpg  
m2cupcar is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 12:11 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
RyanRaduechel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oakdale, CA
Posts: 1,394
Total Cats: 123
Default

I use NAPA Gold or WIX. I have tried Royal Purple oil with their filter on my Dart before. I hardly think it was worth the cost.
RyanRaduechel is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Oil filter Cut away- Fram and Wix



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:03 AM.