Billet Fuel Rail!
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Billet Fuel Rail!
I've been talking with ETD Racing and throwing out the idea of them building and producing some Billet Fuel Rails for the Miata community. John is very interested and prepared to create and mass produce some Billet fuel rails at a great price.
- He has a few questions... What is the ideal price point; Keep in mind they are not a $50 item to produce when your C&C'ing them out of a chunk of aluminum.
- Which model would you like to be produced first? 90-93, 94-97 or 99-04
- Would you be interested in a 10 Person Group buy (per model) in order to have the product come to market quicker and at a discounted price. (Tell me what price you would expect)
- I know FM sells fuel rails, and I personally own a vishnu for my 2000. Who else actually sells a GOOD Billet fuel rail?
- He has a few questions... What is the ideal price point; Keep in mind they are not a $50 item to produce when your C&C'ing them out of a chunk of aluminum.
- Which model would you like to be produced first? 90-93, 94-97 or 99-04
- Would you be interested in a 10 Person Group buy (per model) in order to have the product come to market quicker and at a discounted price. (Tell me what price you would expect)
- I know FM sells fuel rails, and I personally own a vishnu for my 2000. Who else actually sells a GOOD Billet fuel rail?
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Why not just buy extruded fuel rail stock already to go from ross machine and they can do the drilling and tapping for the injectors and fittings. There is no reason to reinvent the wheel and spend a bunch of money cncing a rail from a block of aluminum.
The only thing keeping me from doing it myself is that the drill bit for the injector holes is like $150 or some ****.
I personally am not willing to pay more than $100 for a fuel rail considering what it is and how simple it is to make.
The only thing keeping me from doing it myself is that the drill bit for the injector holes is like $150 or some ****.
I personally am not willing to pay more than $100 for a fuel rail considering what it is and how simple it is to make.
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Why not just buy extruded fuel rail stock already to go from ross machine and they can do the drilling and tapping for the injectors and fittings. There is no reason to reinvent the wheel and spend a bunch of money cncing a rail from a block of aluminum.
The only thing keeping me from doing it myself is that the drill bit for the injector holes is like $150 or some ****.
I personally am not willing to pay more than $100 for a fuel rail considering what it is and how simple it is to make.
The only thing keeping me from doing it myself is that the drill bit for the injector holes is like $150 or some ****.
I personally am not willing to pay more than $100 for a fuel rail considering what it is and how simple it is to make.
You could also create the spotface for an SAE port using an endmill and drill press. Obviously it's nothing too fancy, but a lot cheaper than buying one. If I get a new drill press for x-mas I'll do a little write up with pictures as I need to make one for my car.
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Also, is there enough room to use the rail stock and still fit the FPR etc. I remember my 1.6 with a **** Rail was a bitch, and the vishnu was not much easier.
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It costs no more than $18 for the extruded fuel rail. No more than $10 for the fittings off the rail. The bit to drill the holes is less than $10 on ebay or other supplier. The stainless braided lines would run around $40 tops.
That is with me going out and buying the stuff right now at retail prices. Not wholesale large order prices.
That is with me going out and buying the stuff right now at retail prices. Not wholesale large order prices.
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+1 on 94-97...
dont mean to knock on your good intensions, but you did ask what would be reasonable for us...a DIY dual feed is just way too simple to make and works just fine, the only reason id buy one is so i can be lazy and have another good looking piece under my hood
appreciate the effort, keep up the good work
dont mean to knock on your good intensions, but you did ask what would be reasonable for us...a DIY dual feed is just way too simple to make and works just fine, the only reason id buy one is so i can be lazy and have another good looking piece under my hood
appreciate the effort, keep up the good work
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Dual feed DIY stocker doesn't add more volume in the rail. There comes a point somewhere where a bigger rail should be used. If that's at 275, 325, 400 hp I don't know.
$75, and I'd rock it. Don't think that it's economically viable for the manufacturer at that level though.
$75, and I'd rock it. Don't think that it's economically viable for the manufacturer at that level though.
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Why not just buy extruded fuel rail stock already to go from ross machine and they can do the drilling and tapping for the injectors and fittings. There is no reason to reinvent the wheel and spend a bunch of money cncing a rail from a block of aluminum.
The only thing keeping me from doing it myself is that the drill bit for the injector holes is like $150 or some ****.
I personally am not willing to pay more than $100 for a fuel rail considering what it is and how simple it is to make.
The only thing keeping me from doing it myself is that the drill bit for the injector holes is like $150 or some ****.
I personally am not willing to pay more than $100 for a fuel rail considering what it is and how simple it is to make.
I dunno guys, I've seen those fancy injector bung drill bits and wondered why. You don't need the step on a miata fuel rail. I just used a regular ol' drill bit on my fuel rails. Make sure it's sharp and it'll leave a fine surface finish. Add good o-rings and it won't leak.
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I dunno guys, I've seen those fancy injector bung drill bits and wondered why. You don't need the step on a miata fuel rail. I just used a regular ol' drill bit on my fuel rails. Make sure it's sharp and it'll leave a fine surface finish. Add good o-rings and it won't leak.
Just have to solve the issues of how to attach the stock regulator.