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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Your **** is in the mail to me, pozatron. I'll mail it back to Tim on Monday.

This housing has spent more time in the back of a shipping truck than it has spent in both Tim's and my possession combined. It's like the village *****.
You're a village ***** and its a shame you haven't already shipped it so I could keep the money and blow fish-scale off a hooker's *** with it. With any luck I'll do that before I send it so at the least you can touch something that's been near a woman's sex organs.

its like the gnome that gets shipped everywhere.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by y8s
what? the garrett .64 and .86 housings are almost indistinguishable on the outside. why would the tial be much different?
I guess I'm thinking of something different, or talking out my *** again. It's been a while.

Ahh. You can sorta see in this pic, the only one I have uploaded. The left turbo is a 56 trim 2871, .86A/R, middle and right the standard 2560 & 2554.
http://www.inoneear.com/outtheother/...202871%202.JPG

Sav doesn't get his stuff until tomorrow.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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well, the tial housings are much smaller than standard turbine housings so there may be a distinguishable difference.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rharris19
It is not an ebay manifold with a brace. That guy was sent a manifold to see if he could make them for BEGi and ended up just copying it badly and sending the manifold back.
it was confimed by corky. begi may have sent the manifold to china to have reproduced but what they send back is the same thing sold on ebay

I'm not talking about this new manifold. This one seems solid
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
well, the tial housings are much smaller than standard turbine housings so there may be a distinguishable difference.
I don't know about that. Sav's turbine is a lot closer to "hit block" than any of the standard turbine setups I've done.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Reading comprehension is a good skill to have. I never said anything about the manifold material or construction, and I won't because I've never seen one. What I have seen is a difference in collector style between the v-band S4 and the standard S4.
Take your own advice. "The standard S4 has a really nice collector," your words. It's not nice.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Interesting. Miatas finally catching up to the rest of the world
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sprayed
Take your own advice. "The standard S4 has a really nice collector," your words. It's not nice.
He is talking about the way that they all come together. The angles that the tubes join and how they flow with each other. Not so much about the welding or looks.

BTW, the S4 manifold is actually a very nice manifold. I have one and love the hell out of it. I just want V-bands for the track.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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So it is interesting BEGI did not use the separate runner/collector EWG setup they were working on for the S4. I thought they had tried a simple branch tube at the collector (like this one) and were having boost creep problems. This manifold though is a bit different than the S4 so maybe that takes care of it.

At any rate, looks great, should work great too.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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That **** is awesome. Did you get the 3" DP option... and I need to know the total cost including the wastegate please.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Forget my last post, I was picturing this:



I don't know what the inside of the regular s4 looks like, but judging by the outside it does look like it would flow well.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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The S4 is a braced ebay mani? What the hell are you talking about?

I'll 3rd Savington and Rharris's statements. The collector on my absolutely-not-ebay-or-made-in-china S4 mani is very well done.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitlab77
Interesting. Miatas finally catching up to the rest of the world
overnight thanks to one guy pioneering something, and roughly 3-serious track rats pushing him.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
So it is interesting BEGI did not use the separate runner/collector EWG setup they were working on for the S4. I thought they had tried a simple branch tube at the collector (like this one) and were having boost creep problems. This manifold though is a bit different than the S4 so maybe that takes care of it.
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. This design (picture) seems like it would work better, considering there isn't a 90 degree bend for the exhaust to travel through to the wastegate. Maybe testing didn't go too well...

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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I am far from a track rat and won't even pretend that I am not a novice. I'm just getting this car set-up so I have one less thing to worry about.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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so I take it corky personally made this manifold?

I've been following the Vband/bolts threads on here and on the miata.net
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cococarbine3
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. This design (picture) seems like it would work better, considering there isn't a 90 degree bend for the exhaust to travel through to the wastegate. Maybe testing didn't go too well...


Testing took a brief (lol) hiatus... testing will begin again very soon.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cueball1
The S4 is a braced ebay mani? What the hell are you talking about?

I'll 3rd Savington and Rharris's statements. The collector on my absolutely-not-ebay-or-made-in-china S4 mani is very well done.
One of these is from an ebay auction.



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Check your egr, does the weld look different from the rest of the manifold? it was added later.

the wg setup cant be adapted to the original s4 manifold because 16/18ga material cannot hold the wieght of a wastegate. It breaks right off.
Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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Why does Dallas have a disproportionately high number of turbo Miata owners who are mouth-breathing retards?
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Originally Posted by Savington
Why does Dallas have a disproportionately high number of turbo Miata owners who are mouth-breathing retards?
:stopspaymentonpaypal:

oh, and our dad's own dealerships.



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