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Old 05-11-2014, 05:29 PM   #1
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Angry Car died. Won't start. I'm confused

I was on my way back to Miami and all of a sudden the car stopped working. It shut off and I was unable to get it to start again. The car cranks but wont start.

I pulled over an tried to fix the problem but to no avail. I pulled one of the COP and checked for spark and didnt see any. The fuel pump primes and the engine turns freely. When I got the car back home I decided to try the stock coil pack because I've been getting some strange error messages since the COP install. With the stock coil pack I checked for spark again and I could hear an intermittent signal, but no spark. At this point I still think the CAS is the problem, but I'm not sure what to make of what I saw after.

Also, tunerstudios now wont even let me access the spark menu at the same time MS has switched to the secondary spark table
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:23 PM   #2
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I went ahead and started another project and loaded a previous msq. The one I've been using (attached in post 1) only had changed made by me in the fuel table and the EBC parameters. However, there were lots of changes when I compared the two maps today.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:48 PM   #3
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Did your timing belt break?
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I had same thing happen and my crank sensor had moved away from pins so it stopped reading.
Is it syncing while turning over???
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Reload firmware and tune.
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Did your timing belt break?
Timing belt is still there.

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I had same thing happen and my crank sensor had moved away from pins so it stopped reading.
Is it syncing while turning over???
I don't follow. Are we talking about the sensor in the exhaust side of the cylinder head?

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Reload firmware and tune.
Okay. I'm still in HR10, whats the newest for Ms2?
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you wouldnt want to put ms2 firmware on your ms1
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I've always been under the impression this was a ms2...
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I've always been under the impression this was a ms2...
Take that as a sign to upgrade to MS3x now...
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Timing belt is still there.
That doesn't mean it's not broken. I've seen a belt just strip all of it's teeth, but otherwise stay in one piece.

Verify the cams are turning when the engine is cranking over.
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I've always been under the impression this was a ms2...
Your screenshots / logs say otherwise.
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I've always been under the impression this was a ms2...
why would you be under that impression since you'd had that MS1 for 5 years and you're running MS1 firmware?
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Take that as a sign to upgrade to MS3x now...
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That doesn't mean it's not broken. I've seen a belt just strip all of it's teeth, but otherwise stay in one piece.

Verify the cams are turning when the engine is cranking over.
Belt is fine. Sensor was replaced and the car is running now

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why would you be under that impression since you'd had that MS1 for 5 years and you're running MS1 firmware?
Because I don't know the difference and I thought you sold MS2.


So got a replacement CAS and the started right up. Everything seems to be running fine. The car did not run rough or with any issues before this happened. However, I'm a little paranoid about making the trip to Miami now. I'm not sure if this was just an isolated incident or will this continue to happen.
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