miataturbo.net-like debauchery thread (about the ND or something)
Its just a stunt. Does it really matter that much if its 50/50 instead of 55/45? Thats just benchracing bullshit.
If its understeering at 55/45 you can just toe the rear out a degree and now it isnt. Everybody who test drives it will say "Its so neutral! You can really feel the 50/50 weigth distribution."
If its understeering at 55/45 you can just toe the rear out a degree and now it isnt. Everybody who test drives it will say "Its so neutral! You can really feel the 50/50 weigth distribution."
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Yes, it matters. Theseus was 54/46 and turn-in was poor compared to Rover, which actually had perfect cross-weights AND F/R distribution (i.e. 25% of the weight on each tire).
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Huh. How did you manage that with an offset driver? Did you need to strategically add weight to meet a minimum?
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From: Montreal, QC
Reading some of the reviews this morning, it sounds like the engineers did their Miata thing with the motor. Where the cheesers were complaining about the horsepower figure, apparently Mazda gave the motor torque where it mattered, and performance which belies the 155hp stat. 0-60 in 6 seconds or less is good enough for me. Hell, it's 2 seconds faster than my still-fun NB and you get way better mileage as a bonus. (Excuse me while I roll a sock into my pants.)
The fact that it weighs the same, and that there's only a 15hp delta between the two's published power figures, underscores my point.
The fact that it weighs the same, and that there's only a 15hp delta between the two's published power figures, underscores my point.
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
It is very handsome.
The center tunnel is wide enough to park a WWII-era submarine in. Like 18PSI said, the S2K squeezed you in between an ocean of plastic like a drunken frat boy surrounded by land-whales. Mazda proudly touts how they've made the exterior of the car smaller, but from the looks of it, they've also made the interior of the car thicker. That can only mean one thing.
It's got a TV screen protruding from the dash, and digital gauges in the instrument cluster, with a multipurpose, context-sensitive **** on the center console to control same. Nothing's easier than clicking through several levels of menu with the midday sun shining down onto the LCD monitor in order to change the radio station. Certainly not just reaching over and spinning a dedicated, single-purpose **** without even having to look at it. I'm reminded of that every time I drive an Audi.
I'm not even sure where the radio is, for that matter- no chance in hell of fitting any common 1DIN aftermarket devices in there. That'll be damned annoying after they invent whatever thing displaces MP3s and Bleautooth. Pretty sure the S2K was one of the first Jap cars to implement that particular bit of planned obsolescence.
Push-to-start. Yet another vehicle in which the act of starting the engine is needlessly segregated from the act of enabling the vehicles electronics, thus replacing a single step with multiple steps. There was a time in which this technology made sense. Then electromagnetic relays were invented, followed shortly thereafter by the telegraph and the double-expansion steam engine.
Plusses:
Tilt steering. Hell yeah, brah! I can finally drive a Miata without the steering wheel rubbing my freakishly long legs.
Looks, it's a Miata, not the official state car of some random Paraguayan diplomat who needs to smuggle vast amounts of cocaine across the US-Mexico border. The interior can be upholstered entirely in mule anuses and recycled Chinese newspapers for all I care, so long as it's logically designed and contains no more than is absolutely necessary to drive the car plus some minimum baseline level of comfort. (eg: I'm not going to suggest that it need not include windows that can rolls down, or that the seats be made from bare aluminum. It's a street car, and I get that. But there's a difference between providing a cupholder and making the think look and feel like the drawing room of an 18th century British mansion.)
Mule anuses.
The center tunnel is wide enough to park a WWII-era submarine in. Like 18PSI said, the S2K squeezed you in between an ocean of plastic like a drunken frat boy surrounded by land-whales. Mazda proudly touts how they've made the exterior of the car smaller, but from the looks of it, they've also made the interior of the car thicker. That can only mean one thing.
It's got a TV screen protruding from the dash, and digital gauges in the instrument cluster, with a multipurpose, context-sensitive **** on the center console to control same. Nothing's easier than clicking through several levels of menu with the midday sun shining down onto the LCD monitor in order to change the radio station. Certainly not just reaching over and spinning a dedicated, single-purpose **** without even having to look at it. I'm reminded of that every time I drive an Audi.
I'm not even sure where the radio is, for that matter- no chance in hell of fitting any common 1DIN aftermarket devices in there. That'll be damned annoying after they invent whatever thing displaces MP3s and Bleautooth. Pretty sure the S2K was one of the first Jap cars to implement that particular bit of planned obsolescence.
Push-to-start. Yet another vehicle in which the act of starting the engine is needlessly segregated from the act of enabling the vehicles electronics, thus replacing a single step with multiple steps. There was a time in which this technology made sense. Then electromagnetic relays were invented, followed shortly thereafter by the telegraph and the double-expansion steam engine.
Plusses:
Tilt steering. Hell yeah, brah! I can finally drive a Miata without the steering wheel rubbing my freakishly long legs.
Looks, it's a Miata, not the official state car of some random Paraguayan diplomat who needs to smuggle vast amounts of cocaine across the US-Mexico border. The interior can be upholstered entirely in mule anuses and recycled Chinese newspapers for all I care, so long as it's logically designed and contains no more than is absolutely necessary to drive the car plus some minimum baseline level of comfort. (eg: I'm not going to suggest that it need not include windows that can rolls down, or that the seats be made from bare aluminum. It's a street car, and I get that. But there's a difference between providing a cupholder and making the think look and feel like the drawing room of an 18th century British mansion.)
Mule anuses.
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It is very handsome.
The center tunnel is wide enough to park a WWII-era submarine in. Like 18PSI said, the S2K squeezed you in between an ocean of plastic like a drunken frat boy surrounded by land-whales. Mazda proudly touts how they've made the exterior of the car smaller, but from the looks of it, they've also made the interior of the car thicker. That can only mean one thing.
It's got a TV screen protruding from the dash, and digital gauges in the instrument cluster, with a multipurpose, context-sensitive **** on the center console to control same. Nothing's easier than clicking through several levels of menu with the midday sun shining down onto the LCD monitor in order to change the radio station. Certainly not just reaching over and spinning a dedicated, single-purpose **** without even having to look at it. I'm reminded of that every time I drive an Audi.
I'm not even sure where the radio is, for that matter- no chance in hell of fitting any common 1DIN aftermarket devices in there. That'll be damned annoying after they invent whatever thing displaces MP3s and Bleautooth. Pretty sure the S2K was one of the first Jap cars to implement that particular bit of planned obsolescence.
Push-to-start. Yet another vehicle in which the act of starting the engine is needlessly segregated from the act of enabling the vehicles electronics, thus replacing a single step with multiple steps. There was a time in which this technology made sense. Then electromagnetic relays were invented, followed shortly thereafter by the telegraph and the double-expansion steam engine.
Plusses:
Tilt steering. Hell yeah, brah! I can finally drive a Miata without the steering wheel rubbing my freakishly long legs.
Looks, it's a Miata, not the official state car of some random Paraguayan diplomat who needs to smuggle vast amounts of cocaine across the US-Mexico border. The interior can be upholstered entirely in mule anuses and recycled Chinese newspapers for all I care, so long as it's logically designed and contains no more than is absolutely necessary to drive the car plus some minimum baseline level of comfort. (eg: I'm not going to suggest that it need not include windows that can rolls down, or that the seats be made from bare aluminum. It's a street car, and I get that. But there's a difference between providing a cupholder and making the think look and feel like the drawing room of an 18th century British mansion.)
Mule anuses.
The center tunnel is wide enough to park a WWII-era submarine in. Like 18PSI said, the S2K squeezed you in between an ocean of plastic like a drunken frat boy surrounded by land-whales. Mazda proudly touts how they've made the exterior of the car smaller, but from the looks of it, they've also made the interior of the car thicker. That can only mean one thing.
It's got a TV screen protruding from the dash, and digital gauges in the instrument cluster, with a multipurpose, context-sensitive **** on the center console to control same. Nothing's easier than clicking through several levels of menu with the midday sun shining down onto the LCD monitor in order to change the radio station. Certainly not just reaching over and spinning a dedicated, single-purpose **** without even having to look at it. I'm reminded of that every time I drive an Audi.
I'm not even sure where the radio is, for that matter- no chance in hell of fitting any common 1DIN aftermarket devices in there. That'll be damned annoying after they invent whatever thing displaces MP3s and Bleautooth. Pretty sure the S2K was one of the first Jap cars to implement that particular bit of planned obsolescence.
Push-to-start. Yet another vehicle in which the act of starting the engine is needlessly segregated from the act of enabling the vehicles electronics, thus replacing a single step with multiple steps. There was a time in which this technology made sense. Then electromagnetic relays were invented, followed shortly thereafter by the telegraph and the double-expansion steam engine.
Plusses:
Tilt steering. Hell yeah, brah! I can finally drive a Miata without the steering wheel rubbing my freakishly long legs.
Looks, it's a Miata, not the official state car of some random Paraguayan diplomat who needs to smuggle vast amounts of cocaine across the US-Mexico border. The interior can be upholstered entirely in mule anuses and recycled Chinese newspapers for all I care, so long as it's logically designed and contains no more than is absolutely necessary to drive the car plus some minimum baseline level of comfort. (eg: I'm not going to suggest that it need not include windows that can rolls down, or that the seats be made from bare aluminum. It's a street car, and I get that. But there's a difference between providing a cupholder and making the think look and feel like the drawing room of an 18th century British mansion.)
Mule anuses.
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I recently got my Valedictorian daughter a loaded 2015 GT PRHT 6MT. Much cheaper than having to pay for college I reasoned (since she earned mutliple scholarships). And she'll be covered by a warranty while away at school and will learn to drive a manual. So, to my convoluted thinking, this was logical.
I hadn't factored in the wife's reaction though. The last of the NCs is one heck of a sweet ride. Plus, she took one look at the PRHT in action and now she wants me to dump her old SL and get her one of these. Looking forward to the 2018s. I figure by then the ND will have gained a PRHT and been through its first round of teething problems.
I'll keep driving warmed-up NAs though.
I hadn't factored in the wife's reaction though. The last of the NCs is one heck of a sweet ride. Plus, she took one look at the PRHT in action and now she wants me to dump her old SL and get her one of these. Looking forward to the 2018s. I figure by then the ND will have gained a PRHT and been through its first round of teething problems.
I'll keep driving warmed-up NAs though.
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