Quick Radiator Shroud
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Thanks Ferdi. I'm still deciding on how I want the fans to run anyway.
I actually cracked it because it was uneven when the bit broke through. Didn't crack any more holes however after I made sure it was on a level drilling surface.
sixshooter, like I said, I'm still learning about all this, so maybe instead of comments like that, you can actually add something insightful. Chances are I'm not the only one researching this, and chances are people will read this later and learn something.
sixshooter, like I said, I'm still learning about all this, so maybe instead of comments like that, you can actually add something insightful. Chances are I'm not the only one researching this, and chances are people will read this later and learn something.
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Just to clarify what sixshooter meant with air flowing backwards through the idle fan. I agree 100% that that could/will happen. It's not sucking the air backwards through the radiator, but within the shroud itself. Picture this: instead of the radiator, mount your shroud on a solid wall. Turn one fan on...air will be sucked backwards through the idle fan. Like I said, dividing the fans with a piece of weather stripping would easily prevent this.
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If it matters at all what I think, it is a very effective design and should perform much better than stock. I also think that it looks quite nice.
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Here is an interesting anecdote regarding plexi shrouds on a race-car, but not a miata:
I was running an Alfa Romeo Milano in One Lap. Not long track sessions, but enough to push the cooling system in summer heat. The car was having temp issues, so we tried plexi shroud. Temps were datalogged lower on our test track, but not low enough. We COMPLETELY shrouded and sealed the mouth opening straight to the rad, directing all possible air through it. On the straightaway at our home track for testing, the pressure building on the front of the rad was so high the plexi fan shroud broke right off. We put the fans back on and left the mouth shrouding, and all was perfect. Temps were great.
Conclusion: I won't ever put a flat fan shroud like that on a track car if I have properly routed airflow through the mouth.
I was running an Alfa Romeo Milano in One Lap. Not long track sessions, but enough to push the cooling system in summer heat. The car was having temp issues, so we tried plexi shroud. Temps were datalogged lower on our test track, but not low enough. We COMPLETELY shrouded and sealed the mouth opening straight to the rad, directing all possible air through it. On the straightaway at our home track for testing, the pressure building on the front of the rad was so high the plexi fan shroud broke right off. We put the fans back on and left the mouth shrouding, and all was perfect. Temps were great.
Conclusion: I won't ever put a flat fan shroud like that on a track car if I have properly routed airflow through the mouth.
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I was surprised, I guess that you didn't visualize what I was referring to in my first post, but apparently Ferdi and others did. I was a bit snide, and I apologize for that. I just thought you weren't trying to understand. I tend to get quippy when I think I detect laziness. Sorry about that.
If it matters at all what I think, it is a very effective design and should perform much better than stock. I also think that it looks quite nice.
If it matters at all what I think, it is a very effective design and should perform much better than stock. I also think that it looks quite nice.
Ben (ben91) mentioned mouth shrouding yesterday, I had already planned to take the leftover plexi and use it to make some shrouding there (waste not, right?), however, that's a little unnerving. But I don't mind trying different things to find out the results. The good thing is, if I have to ditch the shroud, I'm only out a little money and the time it took to make it.
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Second. The only time the shroud makes any difference is when stopped when the air will be drawn from every part of the rad.
Thirdly. With a flat shroud like the one in the OP you probably hurt flow when moving because instead of hitting a funnel like the stock shroud, the air is hitting a wall of plexiglass probably hindering flow through the rest of the rad.
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^^^ That makes sense too for the flip side of the argument. However, because of space, I can't use the OEM shrouds, especially not the a/c fan one, nor make an effective funnel shroud without costs going way up.
As of today, I'm tempted to take it off and add some rubber flapper doors like other shroud makers use on their designs. Wouldn't be too hard to do. Would help while driving, and they would shut while stopped so the fans can do the work.
As of today, I'm tempted to take it off and add some rubber flapper doors like other shroud makers use on their designs. Wouldn't be too hard to do. Would help while driving, and they would shut while stopped so the fans can do the work.
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^^^ That makes sense too for the flip side of the argument. However, because of space, I can't use the OEM shrouds, especially not the a/c fan one, nor make an effective funnel shroud without costs going way up.
As of today, I'm tempted to take it off and add some rubber flapper doors like other shroud makers use on their designs. Wouldn't be too hard to do. Would help while driving, and they would shut while stopped so the fans can do the work.
As of today, I'm tempted to take it off and add some rubber flapper doors like other shroud makers use on their designs. Wouldn't be too hard to do. Would help while driving, and they would shut while stopped so the fans can do the work.
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