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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Is it worth it to have r-compound tires for street use? Just wanted everyone's opinion on this.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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if you're baller enough to keep replacing them, why not?
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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I'd say no.
1. Cost is prohibitive (even if you are loaded... its silly waste)
2. No warning noise when u are pushing them... which you shouldn't be on the street
3. Water performance issues... majority of Rcomps are not fun in the wet.

Just run a nice summer performance tire.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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you'll make bricks out of R-comps on the street faster than you'd wear through them I'd bet. They don't like to be heat cycled as often as a street tire can withstand.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitime
I'd say no.
1. Cost is prohibitive (even if you are loaded... its silly waste)
2. No warning noise when u are pushing them... which you shouldn't be on the street
3. Water performance issues... majority of Rcomps are not fun in the wet.

Just run a nice summer performance tire.
I second everything Splitime said and will add:
4: When they do break away, you had better be on guard to catch them quick, they don't have that same gradual break-away that they do on the track running them at sane pressures on the street.
5: The ride just plain sucks.

On the street, you're better off sticking to a high performance summer tire and leaving the r-comps for track work.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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also: the sound of gravel being slung into your wheelwells will get annoying after awhile.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Why? Any benifit to blowing money?

I drive on the street with r-comps, but my car only sees about 50-100 street miles a year and I don't own street tires for it.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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You're an exception to the rule fourwhls.

Azenis are cheap, offer good traction, last around 10k miles with normal use and RS2s offer about the same or better especially if you plan to track the car. All for less money than a set of R comps.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Been there done that with RA-1s, for about 4 months. They beat the **** out of the car and I have missing paint to show for it. A near slick RA-1 will pick up a very supstantial rock and hammer it into your fender. Scared the crap out of me.

If you MUST do it, get mud flaps. It'll help with the paint a little.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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i wonder how long roadkill would stick....
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cjernigan
You're an exception to the rule fourwhls.

Azenis are cheap, offer good traction, last around 10k miles with normal use and RS2s offer about the same or better especially if you plan to track the car. All for less money than a set of R comps.
arent azenis r-comp?
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanSoot
arent azenis r-comp?
Nope! Close, but no. They are 200 treadwear.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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ah... i always thought they were some kind of stiffer r-compounds. great tires by the way. i went through a set of rear ones within 2k miles though... gonna try RS2 next
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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I beat my azenis' into the ground, I think I need a more aggressive alignment. I guess I'll have to upsize the wheels if I want more grip on the street. I'll wait for the new Toyo
R1-R's to come out and I'll purchase some 6UL's. Can't get the action without the traction.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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I'm looking forward to seeing the R1-Rs as well as Kuhmo's new Ecsta XS. These guys are really pushing the limits of the "street tire" classification. I like it.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by racerx
I beat my azenis' into the ground, I think I need a more aggressive alignment. I guess I'll have to upsize the wheels if I want more grip on the street. I'll wait for the new Toyo
R1-R's to come out and I'll purchase some 6UL's. Can't get the action without the traction.
Wait and get the 15x9s and run 275s, if they'll fit.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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R1-R in 225/45-15 =

I know what my next tire will be.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
R1-R in 225/45-15 =

I know what my next tire will be.
I'd like a set of them. Do they run wide like the azenis, i'm still on 205/50s rt615s.
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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You guys are not inspiring confidence in me here. I'm about to ditch the nearly-gone R-S2s for a set of NT-01s. I'm hoping to get 6000 miles out of them, basically through the end of summer 08.

I'd run street tires on the street and R-comps on the track, but I need R-comps for the track and it's either my 6ULs or some daisies, and the NT-01s are going on the 6ULs. :(
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
I'd run street tires on the street and R-comps on the track, but I need R-comps for the track and it's either my 6ULs or some daisies, and the NT-01s are going on the 6ULs. :(
Plausible street tire options for your daisies:

http://edgeracing.com/tire/1513/

http://edgeracing.com/tire/1531/

http://edgeracing.com/tire/2545/



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