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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:13 AM
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idk if i've mentioned it but i want one. just not at 750$ lol
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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idk if i've mentioned it but i want one. just not at 750$ lol
Yah, that's a big pill to swallow on a Miata. The wing on the Miata cost me about $75 off ebay, picked it up locally. Fits into the OGK's theme perfectly.

I'll be stocking the GT200 Miata wing because it's the best Miata wing you can buy, not the cheapest. The stuff from Japan for the Miata is all close but not quite unless you make your own stanchions and mounts.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:21 AM
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Thank you. I did it myself in about 12 hrs...all with vinyl.
Special order, or does someone sell it...
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Emilio- don't you think adding a splitter to the ISC front spoiler would give you the downforce you need/want on the front end? That spoiler was built to meet the limits of the SCCA's ITA class - thus no splitter and no extension beyond the foremost tip of the bumper.
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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This thread has me looking very hard on craigslists in my area for a spare trunk lid and a ricer selling quality wing cheap. Looking for what directions people go to balance the fronts though. DD car I'm limited on what I can do that can't be undone easily at the end of a track day.

How's this cf wing look for $100? Unknown make.

Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cueball1
This thread has me looking very hard on craigslists in my area for a spare trunk lid and a ricer selling quality wing cheap. Looking for what directions people go to balance the fronts though. DD car I'm limited on what I can do that can't be undone easily at the end of a track day.

How's this cf wing look for $100? Unknown make.




Since it's unknown it may be ricer crap and add signifigant drag, but it's impossible to tell. Looks like a good $100 gamble, I'd try it.
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Originally Posted by m2cupcar
Emilio- don't you think adding a splitter to the ISC front spoiler would give you the downforce you need/want on the front end? That spoiler was built to meet the limits of the SCCA's ITA class - thus no splitter and no extension beyond the foremost tip of the bumper.
Yup. Thought I'd try it sans extension first. Not enough downforce.

The other issue is all the air hitting the front tires. That generates lift and a big chunk of drag. So the next round of mods to the OGK will hopefully include either some spats like William made to shield the tires or a dive plane like canard thingy.

It would also be more effective if the car were lower but I can't get any lower now without getting into ugly geometry issues. The new spindles and control arms will fix that but the protos are still a few weeks away.
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Any thoughts on projects to make the car slipperier like undertrays, ducting, diffusers, vortex generators, etc. in combination with adding downforce?
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cueball1
Any thoughts on projects to make the car slipperier like undertrays, ducting, diffusers, vortex generators, etc. in combination with adding downforce?



There are some really good threads about this over on corner-carvers.com if you search a bit.
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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how much water do the ratings of "less than 120 mph" or "greater than 120 mph" hold on the APR website?

and I'm already tired of people bitching about their mustangs at corner-carvers

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Corner-carvers . Thanks! I'm checking it out.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mazda/nissan
how much water do the ratings of "less than 120 mph" or "greater than 120 mph" hold on the APR website?

and I'm already tired of people bitching about their mustangs at corner-carvers
The GTC-300 is way too big for the Miata.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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The speed ratings seem to break down by Carbon Fiber and Aluminum. The CF's rate 150-180, aluminum are all at 120. Note they don't say maximum speed but highest average speed. I'm wondering if aluminum might fit the avg speeds of Miata's on the track better.
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It depends on what they are basing the speed rating off of, though. If it's drag produced, then you want the CF because our aero is **** as is and you want to add as little additional drag as possible when you do the wing.

OTOH, the aluminum is much cheaper, probably.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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hm, 120 avg. would be pretty good for a miata. The GTII's look nice, and the aluminum one doesn't break the bank, I may be able to swing it, assuming it would help with time attack.

Sav. it appears that the aluminum and CF pieces are the same shape (more clearly the CF is all organic looking). The only thing then would be the surface smoothness, which I am sure you could polish the aluminum right?
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Can you post pics? APR's site seems to be down.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tann3r
Saw these pics over at cr.net, they are tagged slickauto.net. Anyone have anyinfo on the mounts used here?


I've never liked fitting or the look of that top but damn, that's hot.
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Who makes that top? is it still in production? Thats the hotness right there! go nicely with my N2 flares in the future
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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the only difference appears to be where the braces attach to the body of the structure, could there still be a noticeable drag between the 2 materials?

erotomania that top was made by someone on m.net i believe, horrible fitment if I heard correctly, you don't want it (thats a doctored example)
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Is the "Autokonexion" hardtop. Not sure if they are still for sale though.

BTW Autokonexion/slickauto mounted that wing to the rear quarter and were nice enough to show a few pics.




Also over at cr.net slickauto has the wing for sale w/ some better pictures.



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