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Old 01-17-2009, 10:02 PM   #101
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while reading through that m.net thread I noticed they talked about the reverse mud-flaps on S2000's for diverting air from the tires. I have also noticed that the new Corolla's have these reverse mud flaps as well. I suppose a wide body kit could fix this. Or create a vertical piece on your splitter that went in front of the wheels, rising into the wheel wells.

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:16 PM   #102
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here is my setup.

1st pic was ISC air dam with splitter.
umm, going off road a few times destroyed my ISC air dam, it is also impossible to roll on and off my trailer with it. so I gave up, and installed a Home Depot front spoiler and wheel spat that Savington is referring to in 2nd pic.

2nd also pic shows my side skirt. cost me $10 at Home Depot. hasn't need replacement yet for over an year.

3rd pic shows my rear diffuser, since have taken it off. too much hassle and it weighs about 20LB.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:23 PM   #103
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Bellwilliam,

Opinion on how well the DIY dam and skirts do at balancing out that wing?
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That ISC dam looks from the pics like it does a good job of blocking air from the front wheels. Does it?
Nope. My ISC on the OGK leaves a good 3~4" of tire hanging out in the wind. The plan is to add a plate splitter that's as wide as the tires and a dive plane to cover the tires. Like Savington said, two birds with one stone.

The ISC for the NB's leaves even more tire exposed.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:55 PM   #105
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Bellwilliam,

Opinion on how well the DIY dam and skirts do at balancing out that wing?
I still get quite a bit of push. but Home Depot air dam and wheel spat are very strong (they survive quite a bit of off roading ). where ISC air dam is probably for someone who never ever goes off.

I do want a splitter, but it really is a lots of hassle to install it. in my picture 1. it was easier for me to take off the whole bumper with splitter on. I will install my splitter again if I find a good aftermarket bumper or if I find an easy and strong way to mount it.

wheel spat is just 2 pcs of aluminum. about $15 at Home Depot and 3 bolts per side to mount it. took me about 10 minutes.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:33 PM   #106
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With that set up still pushing are you thinking about maybe a less effective wing for better balance or are you looking for more downforce / less lift in the front to offset it?
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:03 PM   #107
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I can always run less rear wing still (going negative instead of zero angle). But I am hoping to get an easy to install splitter, to offset the rear wing. hoping for some easy idea. I've seen a Bomex front bumper, it has a small front lip built-in. that might work. and/or run dive plane like Emilio said.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:05 PM   #108
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How goofy is the idea of using the Miata factory style mud flaps mounted to the opposite sides so they are in front of the tires. The curve fits the front of the wheel well opening pretty closely. Tried and not wide enough?
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How goofy is the idea of using the Miata factory style mud flaps mounted to the opposite sides so they are in front of the tires. The curve fits the front of the wheel well opening pretty closely. Tried and not wide enough?
thought of the same thing just a minute ago
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Would probably work, but I doubt the fit would be exact, nor would there be holes to mount it, but I dont expect you thought that anyway. (or am I wrong?)
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Would probably work, but I doubt the fit would be exact, nor would there be holes to mount it, but I dont expect you thought that anyway. (or am I wrong?)
you are going to let a lack of mounting holes deter you from aerodynamic pleasure?
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No, I wouldnt use the stock flaps anyway. If I were to do it, I would do something custom like the aluminum ones.
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I just figured the stock mud flaps would be a jumping off part. The curve isn't that far off and it wouldn't be hard to fab tabs to bolt them up to. Also the curve of them is less of a sail than the flat plate. In looking to improve aero I'm figuring their smoother wedge shape might be better. I've got a couple used ones coming to work with already. Figured those and my ABS DIY splitter project could be done at the same time.

We'll see. Looking to improve aero/ reduce lift to make up for all the weight I've added to the car. I like the simple let off at 70-80mph timed deceleration idea for checking aero improvements.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:58 PM   #114
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Thinking of Smokey and the Bandit Trans Am fender skirts and a die grinder.
Make it fit.

I went searching for fender flares and splitters and found things. Unnatural things. Ugly things.

Is that a kitchen table?
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:00 PM   #115
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I have never understood that style, i think the japanese are making fun of american ricers
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thats bozoku racing style. they often put oil coolers on the front there too. its just one of their old fads.

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I still get quite a bit of push. but Home Depot air dam and wheel spat are very strong (they survive quite a bit of off roading ). where ISC air dam is probably for someone who never ever goes off.

I do want a splitter, but it really is a lots of hassle to install it. in my picture 1. it was easier for me to take off the whole bumper with splitter on. I will install my splitter again if I find a good aftermarket bumper or if I find an easy and strong way to mount it.

wheel spat is just 2 pcs of aluminum. about $15 at Home Depot and 3 bolts per side to mount it. took me about 10 minutes.
You guys might think this is ghetto, but it's an idea I had for splitter attachment while walking through home depot one day. They have bigass rolls of braided steel cables that you can buy in whatever lengths you want. Depending what size you get, the ratings on it are easily strong enough for anything like this. Get some of that, attach it to the splitter with eye bolts or something like what's already installed on your metal splitter in the picture, and then have eye bolts on the chassis up inside the bumper so that you can just use carribeaners for quick disconnect. Mount it somewhere in the rear with a few bolts and it should be pretty easy ro remove by just jacking up the car. You'd have to make sure the cables were tight enough to keep the splitter snug up against the bumper and keep it from flapping up or down (which would probably screw up handling pretty bad) but if done right I think it'd be pretty easy to install/remove and it'd be cheap as hell.
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You guys might think this is ghetto, but it's an idea I had for splitter attachment while walking through home depot one day. They have bigass rolls of braided steel cables that you can buy in whatever lengths you want. Depending what size you get, the ratings on it are easily strong enough for anything like this. Get some of that, attach it to the splitter with eye bolts or something like what's already installed on your metal splitter in the picture, and then have eye bolts on the chassis up inside the bumper so that you can just use carribeaners for quick disconnect. Mount it somewhere in the rear with a few bolts and it should be pretty easy ro remove by just jacking up the car. You'd have to make sure the cables were tight enough to keep the splitter snug up against the bumper and keep it from flapping up or down (which would probably screw up handling pretty bad) but if done right I think it'd be pretty easy to install/remove and it'd be cheap as hell.
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I have a home-depot lip in my garage...in for ideas on how I can make brake ducts, and center duct with my begi scoooper, and a splitter with it.
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2.5" risers installed today. Haven't tried it out, but it should increase the downforce a tad by getting the wing up into cleaner air.
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