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Old 10-17-2009, 02:12 AM   #21
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Oh, I meant a stock NSX vs a V8 FD. Just not sure how reliable these V8 conversions are.
i would lean more towards a v8 being more reliable that a rotary! i know there a hell of alot easier to work on! alot less confusing too!

i sill love rotary though....
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Old 10-17-2009, 02:18 AM   #22
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i would lean more towards a v8 being more reliable that a rotary! i know there a hell of alot easier to work on! alot less confusing too!

i sill love rotary though....
20 minute cam change ftw!
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20 minute cam change ftw!

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kenzo42! i dont know if you know about this site or not but they have been building swap kit for the rx7's since they first rolled off the showroom floor if im not mistaken, not to expensive either!

here ya go! http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/
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I had planned on building an L33 based car this Spring. Sean, our new mechanic said today "I have an LS1 and spare T5 you can have". I guess that seals it. So I have a 99 Sport Package and a 95 R Package as willing donors. Thinking the little R package would be perfect since its OBD I..

So yeah, it's the cheapest speed that will still go around corners well. Within a few hours of us announcing race prep and full builds, I had four guys inquiring about getting an LSx plan started for them. This is gonna be fun.
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:15 AM   #26
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Hmmm... now who would that be?
not you. This guy talked **** to me a few years ago at a gas station.
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:39 AM   #27
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T5, I don't think their up to the task Emilio. Did you mean T56?
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Old 10-17-2009, 05:03 AM   #28
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These are not dark times. They are times of enlightenment
I think its great. The more people that do this the more companies will make parts for it, the more competition the cheaper the prices, the cheaper the prices the more people will do it and provide feedback/build threads/helpful tips/info. All good things for my future v8 miata project
Exactly, for god sake people, keep it up! Maybe that way in a few years I can afford a V8 swap when my budget picks up a little.

So who is the Moses of this Exodus?

Miata turbos going the way of the FD V8 is excellent! An FD with an LS1 would be one of my ideal cars for a reasonable price.
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I'll do an FD LS1 after Nov. Either that or an NSX. Can't decide.
FD all the way, i think NSX are way too overpriced for what they are.
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I had planned on building an L33 based car this Spring. Sean, our new mechanic said today "I have an LS1 and spare T5 you can have". I guess that seals it. So I have a 99 Sport Package and a 95 R Package as willing donors. Thinking the little R package would be perfect since its OBD I..

So yeah, it's the cheapest speed that will still go around corners well. Within a few hours of us announcing race prep and full builds, I had four guys inquiring about getting an LSx plan started for them. This is gonna be fun.
it doesnt matter whether car is obd1 or obd2 since electronics on GM motors are stupid easy to swap and they actually all come as one single unit which fits under the hood. thats right - you dont need to run wires through your entire car! if youd like to, i could stop by once my car is done and show you how everything is hooked up. so far i dont see any complicated steps in a swap process.
also, ive read somewhere that you wanted to use V8R kit. any reason for that besides it being pretty tubular setup instead of BF's square tubing and sheet metal? im pretty sure you can get BF stuff cheaper then V8R (dealer pricing) but i guess you would know better
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If you guys are the rebels than I want to be Vader...but I have a damn green car. WTF does that get me? I do not want to be a dumbass storm trooper. I guess the NA miata motor rebels can be Ewoks. lol
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:08 AM   #32
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To put things in perspective on doing a V8 swap and running autoX....

1600lb starting weight
+200 lb per ltr for the motor..

5.7 x200 = 1140 + 1600 = 2740

-200 lb for running a 275 or narrower tire = 2540lb minimum weight.

Meaning NA guys would have to add ballast, but my fully-optioned 02 would probably just barely meet the min. weight just by doing the swap.



Hmmmmmmmmm

If I ever had another DD, I'd consider pulling my drivetrain and selling it to fund a V8.
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:01 PM   #34
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OK... I am going to say it... I know several of you are thinking it... here goes...
Does mt.n need an engine swap section?
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I'd be interested in the axles and the diff setup.
Are you the guy that had a few seconds on pinks? Someone had a car just like that one.
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:06 PM   #36
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OK... I am going to say it... I know several of you are thinking it... here goes...
Does mt.n need an engine swap section?
*** runs for cover ***
That and a P&R section...
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To put things in perspective on doing a V8 swap and running autoX....

1600lb starting weight
+200 lb per ltr for the motor..

5.7 x200 = 1140 + 1600 = 2740

-200 lb for running a 275 or narrower tire = 2540lb minimum weight.

Meaning NA guys would have to add ballast, but my fully-optioned 02 would probably just barely meet the min. weight just by doing the swap.



Hmmmmmmmmm

If I ever had another DD, I'd consider pulling my drivetrain and selling it to fund a V8.
You are using SSM points calculations for a car that would have to be in XP (unless you are swapping in a 5.7L Mazda engine).
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #38
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You can add me to the list, as I am in the very beginning stages of planning an LS(x) miata. It won't happen for a while though.
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Who's gonna be first with "I need turbos for my LS1"... ?
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:04 PM   #40
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I spent a lot of time a few years ago OCDing about LS in E36 and FD chassis, and finally decided that the right answer is just to go buy a Corvette. It's basically the same car as a Miata, but big enough to actually put down 500+ hp. 285 front/315 rear go on with cheap replica wheels and clear 14-in. dia. brakes. It's corner-weightable and ride height adjustable from the factory. The work is already done, with a level of integrity good enough to have had a full factory warranty, even if it's expired.

Fundamentally good, but not perfect chassis. Engine that's only good enough but easy to get more power from.

I even finally realized that 255/40-17 and 275/40-27 on first-gen ZR1 replica wheels will work great and give you lots of affordable, good tire choices.

You do need to replace the seats and steering wheel with something that doesn't make you want to vomit when you look at them, and parts of the interior are liable to free themselves, but that last bit is true of BMWs, too.

If I get as far as I want to take my Miata, and it's still not good enough, this is what I'm doing.
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