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Old 10-21-2009, 01:47 PM   #101
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Vettes are pigs...it cost a lot of money to get one under 3k pounds...they need some serious brakes for that alone. The biggest advantage of the vette are the wheelbase and width. Unfortunately it will cost you twice as much to keep on track for the same lap times. I know from experience. I love vettes, don't get me wrong. Yes you can get one for 20k and head to the track, but its going to cost a lot more than that to get it reliable and they eat tires like baseball players eat sun flower seeds.

I just got my 94 back, so its going to hit the track as SM and the 2000 is getting an LSX drivetrain. Hell yeah!
shhhh, don't tell everybody. my miata's getting hungry!
my car loves vettes! unless your in a race prepped c6z06, chances are, your gonna be pissed off!
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:58 PM   #102
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So has anyone here driven a 350 whp turbo Miata and an LS1 Miata? Which did you like? Which was easier to drive? Which is the better street car?
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Old 10-21-2009, 05:10 PM   #103
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What kind of numbers are you running? I have a coworker with a new C6 vette I would like to victimize if possible.

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shhhh, don't tell everybody. my miata's getting hungry!
my car loves vettes! unless your in a race prepped c6z06, chances are, your gonna be pissed off!
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Old 10-21-2009, 05:26 PM   #104
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:56 PM   #105
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I have TKO600, wonder if I can swap the input shaft to GM size/spline and make it work formy swap...nah, probably just sell it and buy one.
TK600 is a good tranny. It will bolt up just like the T5 but you need a different bellhousing. It uses the same driveshaft. Since monster miata has a setup for the T5, id just get the driveshaft and other parts from them. Their kit I believe is for a T% tranny. All you would need to do is get the different bellhousing and it should all bolt up and be in the same place as with a T5.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:24 PM   #106
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So an LS1 with 80k miles just came up on my local craigslist for $800.....and I'm second guessing my whole turbo build. I'm thinking I could resell the S3 kit for what I paid ($1300) and have $500 to put toward the rest of the build. Would take longer than the turbo build (and cost more), but I'd have a bulletproof 300+ WHP and never have to worry about .msq's and pinging and so on.
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So an LS1 with 80k miles just came up on my local craigslist for $800.....and I'm second guessing my whole turbo build. I'm thinking I could resell the S3 kit for what I paid ($1300) and have $500 to put toward the rest of the build. Would take longer than the turbo build (and cost more), but I'd have a bulletproof 300+ WHP and never have to worry about .msq's and pinging and so on.
Great price for the engine.

Discovery of an $800 LSx engine is exactly why I decided it made more sense to do a V8 swap instead of a turbo.

It will still cost more, but at the end of the day you've got more power, more torque, more upgrade potential, and (imo) better reliability.

No worries about the strength of your transmission and differential. No hot-side fasteners working themselves loose.
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:04 PM   #108
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So an LS1 with 80k miles just came up on my local craigslist for $800.....and I'm second guessing my whole turbo build. I'm thinking I could resell the S3 kit for what I paid ($1300) and have $500 to put toward the rest of the build. Would take longer than the turbo build (and cost more), but I'd have a bulletproof 300+ WHP and never have to worry about .msq's and pinging and so on.
Good price on motor, but beware that the T56 will be double that amount. Generally $1200-$1500. That said, DO IT!
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:00 PM   #109
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Any reason why 80k miles should bother me? Fewer miles than my 1.6 now, for what it's worth, but I see guys looking for lower mileage on their LSx swaps, so I'm curious if there's any particular high-mileage issue with those motors.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:57 PM   #110
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Any reason why 80k miles should bother me? Fewer miles than my 1.6 now, for what it's worth, but I see guys looking for lower mileage on their LSx swaps, so I'm curious if there's any particular high-mileage issue with those motors.
It depends on the motor. If they ran nitrous or abused it yes it could be a problem. But if it's just normal use, it's not an issue.
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:10 PM   #111
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Bah, finally got a reply. No oil pan, no balancer, no flywheel, no harness, and no accessories. $800 seems pretty high now.

Definitely has me thinking about watching for a shell and a cheap 302 or L33, though. For now, the turbo build (err, parts acquisition) resumes.
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Definitely has me thinking about watching for a shell and a cheap 302 or L33, though. For now, the turbo build (err, parts acquisition) resumes.

One thing to bear in mind, believe it or not, the engine/trans are one of the cheapest parts of a build. All said and done, from those that have done it, is that you should plan on $10K all in, plus whatever you have for a car. That is, unless you plan on fabbing everything yourself. It adds up in a hurry.
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