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Old 03-22-2007, 12:06 AM   #21
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THere is a new AEM box comming out. Think of it as an AEM lite and its a piggy back. Look into that. I think FM is working on making it a PnP
I just need something that will control fuel, spark, knock, MAP, and simple to install. I considered EMU, but its a gang-******* to hook up, and too much piggy back crap.
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sounds good. don't know how well the stripes kit would work with bell's stuff as stripes pipes were mocked around a greddy 1.6. you might want to get BEGi charge tubes, and if you want to save a little bit, use an ebay FMIC instead of a Bell Intercooler.

No matter which ECU you go with, you can get a boost selenoid and run closed loop boost control. You won't need the MBC.

Don't know anything about a dxd clutch.

My 1.8 ACT went in today, but I haven't driven it yet. Tomorrow I am hoping to have some time to wire up my wastegate and go for a ride. I'll comment on it once I have an opinion.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:09 AM   #23
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THere is a new AEM box comming out. Think of it as an AEM lite and its a piggy back. Look into that. I think FM is working on making it a PnP
It looks to be essentially an emanage blue with better injector control. The EMU will probably be a better choice. If you're going to spend money on engine management, get something that removes the AFM!
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OK, the Link has fewer features that some newer ECUs have. But it has the biggies: full fuel control, full timing control, datalogging, closed or open loop boost control, closed loop fuel control with a wideband (open loop in boost without a wb), knock sensing, IAT sensor post intercooler, MAP based. It has the keypad which is kind of neat. The P-Link is kick ***, there is no competitor for that right now.

The AEM and Hydra have more capabilities than the Link. The Link is maxed out, it has no more room to expand. The others have multiple extra inputs and outputs that can pretty much do whatever--Fancy stuff like launch control, extra injector drivers, water injection control, NOS control, outputs that could be used for warning lamps or different triggers, or pretty much whatever you could think of. I think they both have barometric correction, too--Not sure don't take my word for it.

The Link is trully PNP, it has the female miata harness terminal. The AEM is also PNP, it has a generic multi connector terminal. The Hydra is only PNP because it comes with a patch harness--like a boomslang for the emanage.

The Link and the Hydra come with FM's support. Which means that somebody reliable is always willing to help you tackle problems and go over your maps. The AEM has support similar to MS--it has some dedicated followers who graciously volunteer to help, but there is no promise of receiving help or resolution to a problem.

You know I went with the Link. I know it leaves features on the table that I may possibly want/need one day. But it's simple to use compared to the AEM and Hydra, and has all sorts of real support. The Hydra is more difficult to install and tune, but also has real support. The AEM is probably around the same difficulty as the Hydra.

Where does megasquirt fit into all of this? From my limited understanding it seems to be equivilent to the AEM, just needs assembly, correct?
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It looks to be essentially an emanage blue with better injector control. The EMU will probably be a better choice. If you're going to spend money on engine management, get something that removes the AFM!
lets take a look then guys. I'm not sure what all the EMU or EMB do

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=116
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It's a emb but with emu injector drivers and a usb port. Not worth getting fired up about.

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lets take a look then guys. I'm not sure what all the EMU or EMB do

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=116
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Unless Hustler has a OB2 Vehicle (96+) the AEM wouldn't be a option anyways
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:00 PM   #28
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If i had the $$ to spend, id go with Hydra / Link / Xede / AEM, but im a cheap bastard so it's a $400-500 MS for me :gay:
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if ihad the money, i'd spend $300 on the ms again and spend the other 800-1700 on something useful, like some coilovers.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:19 PM   #30
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Unless Hustler has a OB2 Vehicle (96+) the AEM wouldn't be a option anyways
then link it is!
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find a used one. I sold my link for under 1000 here a while ago :( cuz I needed to money to fun a trip to Israel

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Old 03-22-2007, 03:04 PM   #32
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find a used one. I sold my link for under 1000 her a while ago :( cuz I needed to money to fun a trip to Israel
I hope so. I'm always afraid to pony up that much cash on a sale like that...like I'm asking someone to run off with my cash.
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p.s I ment the piggy back AEM unit not the standalone......I've got a OBD1 car and running the AEM EMS
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Running it huh when did you install it?
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typo.....should have said .....when I get back from Iraq It'll be running it
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Unless Hustler has a OB2 Vehicle (96+) the AEM wouldn't be a option anyways
Can you explain why the AEM is not an option on earilier miatas?

If this info is already posted, sorry:

AEM EMS and link both work with A/C, I'm sure Hydra does too or else FM wouldnt' sell it. You cannot just hook up a WBO2 sensor directly to either, you need some sort of controller. (The AEM EMS race/non-PNP box allows direct hook up to a bosch sensor I think).
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Can you explain why the AEM is not an option on earilier miatas?
I think this is just marketing. They are pushing the piggy towards those who have OBDII inspections as they would rather sell the more expensive standalone to everybody else.
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