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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
Except when you need to get the wheels off.
damn he took what I was going to say... but I sure wish I had that right about now... doing a clutch replacement on my supra, and the thing is a big *** bitch.
Old Apr 5, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
Except when you need to get the wheels off.
That's kind of what I meant.

A ramp/lift like Rob's has the same limitations as a 4-post lift. Great for access to the undercarriage, but worse than useless for suspension / brake work.

A scissor lift is just the opposite. Extremely convenient for suspension work, but useless if you need clear access to the undercarriage.

Either way, it's a compromise. You have a tool that works well for some tasks, and which, for others, just sits there taking up space and getting in the way while you break out the floor jack and the jackstands.

A 2-post lift works well for all tasks. The only downsides are that they're very expensive, require dedicated electrical service, take up a lot of space, and are a semi-permanent install kind of deal.

Oh, well.

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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
TA 2-post lift works well for all tasks. The only downsides are that they're very expensive, require dedicated electrical service, take up a lot of space, and are a semi-permanent install kind of deal.

Oh, well.
If you have the skills to work on your car to the extent that you have a reason for getting a 2 post lift, then why would removing it be a problem?


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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Joe, I've come to the same conclusion. Only real solution for me is to install pads in both the driveway and garage so I could use it either place. That alone is enough that I probably won't be getting one anytime soon.

Maybe I'll invent something that actually works for the hobby mechanic.
Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
Except when you need to get the wheels off.
I would say it takes me less than 60 seconds to get a wheel off when I am on the kwiklift.
Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
A ramp/lift like Rob's has the same limitations as a 4-post lift. Great for access to the undercarriage, but worse than useless for suspension / brake work.
Yeah, because Lord knows I've never had to do any suspension / brake work <G>. You guys just haven't seen it in action so you are missing the point. Anything that needs work in the wheel well is easier than what it would be if it were on the ground (because it is in a more comfortable position). If you have the correct tools for lifting a corner it is extremely fast/easy to do. We have had this discussion before and I actually shot a video of me pulling a wheel (probably around 30 seconds of work) and throwing some taunts at whoever on here said it was hard to do. I can't remember who that was or where my video is because it has been a couple of years ago. My wife said I was being an *** so I never posted the video.
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 01:50 AM
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So true.

Old Apr 6, 2012 | 02:20 AM
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
Because this sucks:

Yes it does.

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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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How do you jack it up that high?

Dann
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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steriods.
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Baller.

Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Must watch
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
How do you jack it up that high?

Dann
You'd be surprised how light the front is with no motor, tranny, subframe, suspension. Also you would be surprised how heavy the back is even after the subframe, and suspension are gone.

On that note the front I can lift by hand, but the rear was jacked up by a regular jack with a 2' long 4x4.
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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"Portal Axles"












I don't know where they got the name but I've come up with my own interpretation that I think will allow for more flexibility.


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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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The dude that created the entire world in six days, in sitting up in heaven like: "Oh I'm going to cure some cancer today". Then he heard Squizzy Jibs say "god damn" and can't ------- handle it. So now he is under his bed crying and listening to Adele.
EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by y8s
"Portal Axles"
Hmm.

If the outer portal-bearing surface (the wall with the orange portal on it) were rigidly coupled to the hub such that it was free to travel up and down relative to the chassis, this would be a very simple and inexpensive way to convert solid-axle vehicles to fully independent rear suspension.

Does Aperture Labs have an automotive division?
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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I've seen a conversion kit for I think D44s.. costed like 4-5k or something stupid per axle though. Worse yet anything over 40mph starts overheating them so they are definitely offroad only item.
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by y8s
"Portal Axles"
Except for some cool engineering, what are they good for?
Old Apr 6, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Real question or just the saying? If so... clearance. Portal axes give 4-5" extra ground clearance vs standard axles.



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