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hustler 07-19-2012 10:07 AM

Android Crew: ITT we may assemble and discuss various, assorted topics
 
I'm thinking about removing TouchWiz from my GS3 and switching to pure ICS. Has anyone done this and retained full functionality? I've read there are some problems with the camera and gallery functioning. I may be the only person who's said this online, but I kind of miss Sense now that I'm on Touchwiz.

mgeoffriau 07-19-2012 10:22 AM

"Pure ICS" ie a plain jane Android ROM? Never done that, I ran CM7 on my last phone for quite a while.

Do they have ROM's yet for the GS3? That's fast if they do.

mgeoffriau 07-19-2012 10:29 AM

Hmm. Looks like CM9 has been released for the GS3, but only the international GSM model, not the USA-specific model.

hustler 07-19-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 905170)
"Pure ICS" ie a plain jane Android ROM? Never done that, I ran CM7 on my last phone for quite a while.

Do they have ROM's yet for the GS3? That's fast if they do.

Yes, plain Android ICS, the way it should be. I'm still half way tempted to return this phone and get a Nexus just for the simplicity. However, I really like the 2GB of RAM, battery life, and huge screen on the GS3.
Thoughts on rooting and hardware warranty?

mgeoffriau 07-19-2012 11:13 AM

I didn't root and ROM my last phone until it was well past the warranty period, but I was pretty happy with the stock ROM. Just read a bunch of online guides and threads on it...if it seems like you can do it without much risk of bricking your phone, go for it. It can be undone if you have to take it in for warranty service.

Wouldn't bother with the Nexus. Radios suck, tons of unhappy customers.

hustler 07-19-2012 11:16 AM

Warranty is a big deal for me. I've had about 5 warrantied phones in 3-years and every time I trade them in the workers tell me the phones look new. My last phone quit because parts of the screen stopped working. This is why I switched from HTC to Samsung.

pusha 07-19-2012 12:01 PM

iPhone master race checking in from your mom's house

y8s 07-19-2012 12:06 PM

S3 has a locked bootloader, does it not?

maybe check out AOKP. I didnt see support for the S3 yet.

Savington 07-19-2012 01:07 PM

I dread the day my Incredible finally dies. Sense <3

TorqueZombie 07-19-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 905217)
iPhone master race checking in from your mom's house

I have one now after having Androids. I hate this thing. Never had a phone this annoying. Every time I complain about it to other iphone users the excuse is "Oh yoou just need the 4S model not the 4 you have." Played with the 4S, nothing a good android phone can't do, minus Siri and she's annoying to. I loved my Nexus S, wife is using it now. Waiting for the next wave of greatness in the android market to replace this iphone with something that works and does what I tell it.

pusha 07-19-2012 01:18 PM

bro I love my iPhone.

all I use it for is work anyway, I think I have one game on it. <--- words with friends and BRAINEACK never downloaded it to play with me

mgeoffriau 07-19-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 905259)
I dread the day my Incredible finally dies. Sense <3

Heh, that's what my old phone was. Actually, I kept it. I'm running CM7.2 on it and using it as an MP3 player. Great phone, it lasted me over 2 years. Sold my wife's Incredible for $80 on CL.

Savington 07-19-2012 01:40 PM

I paid $125 for mine on eBay a year ago. Best accidental eBay purchase decision ever.

y8s 07-19-2012 01:44 PM

I'm running my incredible stock rooted and about to put cyanogenmod 9 / ICS on it in about 5 minutes.

mgeoffriau 07-19-2012 01:50 PM

We upgraded when Verizon was running a special on the Rezound for $80 to lock in our unlimited data for the next 2 years. It's not quite top tier anymore (just a step below the GS3) but it's still a beast of a phone, with a fantastic screen. Should be getting ICS within the month.

aaronc7 07-19-2012 01:50 PM

Galaxy nexus running CM9 RC1. Ran AOKP before...its pretty good but I'm loving cm9. Tried a jelly bean ROM...pretty cool , but I'm gonna wait for CM10.

pusha 07-19-2012 01:59 PM

wtf could you bros possibly be doing with your phones?

the only apps I use are Shopify, Netflix and Pandora.

AM I MISSING oUT?????

hustler 07-19-2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by aaronc7 (Post 905299)
Galaxy nexus running CM9 RC1. Ran AOKP before...its pretty good but I'm loving cm9. Tried a jelly bean ROM...pretty cool , but I'm gonna wait for CM10.

It seems all the JB ROMs (and stock JB) are awful battery -----s. The battery life in my GS3 is pretty good. I e------d 4-hours and had 51% battery left, lol.

hustler 07-19-2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 905274)
bro I love my iPhone.

all I use it for is work anyway, I think I have one game on it. <--- words with friends and BRAINEACK never downloaded it to play with me

Shut up, idiot.

hustler 07-19-2012 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 905221)
S3 has a locked bootloader, does it not?

maybe check out AOKP. I didnt see support for the S3 yet.

I thought the bootloader was locked, but someone has done it.

hustler 07-19-2012 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by TorqueZombie (Post 905269)
I have one now after having Androids. I hate this thing. Never had a phone this annoying. Every time I complain about it to other iphone users the excuse is "Oh yoou just need the 4S model not the 4 you have." Played with the 4S, nothing a good android phone can't do, minus Siri and she's annoying to. I loved my Nexus S, wife is using it now. Waiting for the next wave of greatness in the android market to replace this iphone with something that works and does what I tell it.

I have a BlackBerry Bold for work and I am super excited about getting a iPhone 4s to replace it...and that makes me sick, lol.

TorqueZombie 07-19-2012 02:45 PM

I may trade in my iphone for the Galaxy Nexus. So there are battery issues with the JellyBean os? I'm sure the iphone has its qualities. But I'm use to android. I'm not a computer guy at all, but there are things I wish could happen or I could change with the iphone. Things like third party alarms don't work well when you don't have the alarm running. If I forget to open the program before I go to bed sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Things like I have to sync it to Itunes at home to change to different ringtones, deleting pictures easily. I'm sure there is someone that knows the tricks. But for what it is, it's annoying. If you do get an Iphone grab a LifeProof case. Said it before, the case is better than the phone.

aaronc7 07-19-2012 02:59 PM

Love the nexus. I did not notice battery issue with JB when I used it. Its a solid phone and in stock form avoids a lot of BS apps and such like HTC puts on theirs.

TorqueZombie 07-19-2012 03:03 PM

I truly hate when you get something and it's preloaded with useless BS. The only thing I don't like about my Thrive is the stupid crap that is loaded from the factory, which I can't delete, and if I wanted to I'd have to root it to delete it. Not that good with computers and want my warrantee. Hopefully when ICS gets released for it it will solve my headaches.

Saml01 07-19-2012 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 905221)
S3 has a locked bootloader, does it not?

maybe check out AOKP. I didnt see support for the S3 yet.

Have you been browsing XDA Developers?
They unlocked it and CWM can be installed.
No S-off yet though.

I got a Sensation 4G. S-Off, unlocked bootloader, Rooted with the latest radio and adreno drivers running a custom kernel and a custom rom.

This is the way the phone should have been from the factory. Before it was just slow and bloated.

Next phone? HTC One X hands down. I prefer Sense over Touchwiz and its easy to unlock. However, if I could get Sense on a SG3 then I would go for that instead, the hardware is undeniably superior even if by a small margin.

My only beef with both phones is the bulk. They are massive. Which is why I may go for the HTC One S or nothing at all(since its so close to the Sensation in specs) until the next generation.

Saml01 07-19-2012 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by TorqueZombie (Post 905352)
I truly hate when you get something and it's preloaded with useless BS. The only thing I don't like about my Thrive is the stupid crap that is loaded from the factory, which I can't delete, and if I wanted to I'd have to root it to delete it. Not that good with computers and want my warrantee. Hopefully when ICS gets released for it it will solve my headaches.

It will once again come with all the bloatware and then some.

fooger03 07-19-2012 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 905307)
wtf could you bros possibly be doing with your phones?

the only apps I use are Shopify, Netflix and Pandora.

AM I MISSING oUT?????

buying an iphone is like buying a pretty decent sports car with zero consumer repairable/replaceable parts. The only thing you can change is the octane of gasoline you put into the tank.

buying an android is like buying an average, pre-built, kit car. It might not have the best performing engine in the world, it might be on steelies with crappy tires, and the rear brakes might not work when you first buy it, BUT, everything on the car has universally standard connections, and is attached with 3 easy-to-access bolts, the manufacturer provides all of the SSTs for you for free when you buy the car, and there are 100 different options for every conceivable replaceable part, and most of the best replaceable parts (the entire drivetrain for example) are available to you free of charge.

pusha 07-19-2012 03:20 PM

word

I just like that I can use iMessage with my hoes and finally receive their smileys

Saml01 07-19-2012 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 905307)
wtf could you bros possibly be doing with your phones?

the only apps I use are Shopify, Netflix and Pandora.

AM I MISSING oUT?????

Pandora, Ebay, Google Nav,, facebook, etrade, banking and browsing.

There isn't anything you cant do on a blackberry or any other phone with a smaller screen, but a bigger screen makes it easier imho.

This is one of the reasons why I don't understand the point of huge screen phones, certainly more than 4 inches or even 3. If I could get an android with a 3 inch screen and decent hardware like an Iphone id get that, but I can't and I don't like the apple os.

pusha 07-19-2012 03:30 PM

I had a Blackberry Curve up until now and I'm glad I can watch porn on my phone without having to squint.

I have all of the apps you mentioned with the addition of Paypal.

y8s 07-19-2012 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 905356)
Have you been browsing XDA Developers?
They unlocked it and CWM can be installed.
No S-off yet though.

I got a Sensation 4G. S-Off, unlocked bootloader, Rooted with the latest radio and adreno drivers running a custom kernel and a custom rom.

This is the way the phone should have been from the factory. Before it was just slow and bloated.

Next phone? HTC One X hands down. I prefer Sense over Touchwiz and its easy to unlock. However, if I could get Sense on a SG3 then I would go for that instead, the hardware is undeniably superior even if by a small margin.

My only beef with both phones is the bulk. They are massive. Which is why I may go for the HTC One S or nothing at all(since its so close to the Sensation in specs) until the next generation.

no
not in the market for a new phone

was only looking for success rates with CM9 on DINC.

So far it runs. I'm restoring apps and gonna see how that turns out.

MartinezA92 07-19-2012 04:00 PM

Meh. I love ICS. Very simple for what I need to do.

hustler 07-19-2012 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by TorqueZombie (Post 905343)
I may trade in my iphone for the Galaxy Nexus. So there are battery issues with the JellyBean os? I'm sure the iphone has its qualities. But I'm use to android. I'm not a computer guy at all, but there are things I wish could happen or I could change with the iphone. Things like third party alarms don't work well when you don't have the alarm running. If I forget to open the program before I go to bed sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Things like I have to sync it to Itunes at home to change to different ringtones, deleting pictures easily. I'm sure there is someone that knows the tricks. But for what it is, it's annoying. If you do get an Iphone grab a LifeProof case. Said it before, the case is better than the phone.

Zero positive qualities with an iPhone.

hustler 07-19-2012 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 905356)
Have you been browsing XDA Developers?
They unlocked it and CWM can be installed.
No S-off yet though.

I got a Sensation 4G. S-Off, unlocked bootloader, Rooted with the latest radio and adreno drivers running a custom kernel and a custom rom.

This is the way the phone should have been from the factory. Before it was just slow and bloated.

Next phone? HTC One X hands down. I prefer Sense over Touchwiz and its easy to unlock. However, if I could get Sense on a SG3 then I would go for that instead, the hardware is undeniably superior even if by a small margin.

My only beef with both phones is the bulk. They are massive. Which is why I may go for the HTC One S or nothing at all(since its so close to the Sensation in specs) until the next generation.

OneX is off the list due to the lack of a servicable battery and no removable storage.

hustler 07-19-2012 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 905364)
buying an iphone is like buying a pretty decent sports car with zero consumer repairable/replaceable parts. The only thing you can change is the octane of gasoline you put into the tank.

buying an android is like buying an average, pre-built, kit car. It might not have the best performing engine in the world, it might be on steelies with crappy tires, and the rear brakes might not work when you first buy it, BUT, everything on the car has universally standard connections, and is attached with 3 easy-to-access bolts, the manufacturer provides all of the SSTs for you for free when you buy the car, and there are 100 different options for every conceivable replaceable part, and most of the best replaceable parts (the entire drivetrain for example) are available to you free of charge.

...only the "kit car" has superior hardware every time. When the iPhone5 drops, it will have less RAM and less processing power with a smaller screen, locked-down to use Apple services rather than the freedom to choose. With any luck the USB/phone cable will have an extra pin so you have to buy new cables and chargers too.

hustler 07-19-2012 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 905376)
I had a Blackberry Curve up until now and I'm glad I can watch porn on my phone without having to squint.

I have all of the apps you mentioned with the addition of Paypal.

Sometimes I touch the screen of my BB in desperation that it will move the dumb mouse-pointer.

aaronc7 07-19-2012 04:40 PM

rooting isn't that bad and reverting back to stock isn't hard either. Plenty of detailed (and easy to understand) step by step guides out there. I accidentally deleted EVERYTHING from my phone the other day (no OS, nothing), and reverting it back to stock was very easy.

UrbanSoot 07-19-2012 06:04 PM

HTC Sensation 4G here. Rooted w/ HyperNonSense version of ICS and stock kernel. ROM came with "Apex" launcher that seems to have 15 bug updates per month and suggest downloading yet another version every time one comes out. Probably will switch back to Go launcher.

Saml01 07-19-2012 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 905406)
OneX is off the list due to the lack of a servicable battery and no removable storage.

You'll get a new phone before you need a new battery and I guess 32gb may not be enough for some but for me, its way more than I need. But I see your point. I also prefer the feel of the one x over the SG3. It just feels more solid.

hustler 07-19-2012 10:17 PM

1 Attachment(s)
How do you install this ----?
Simple RAZR V2 Android Homescreen by MylleZ - MyColorscreen
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342750677

hustler 07-19-2012 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 905508)
You'll get a new phone before you need a new battery and I guess 32gb may not be enough for some but for me, its way more than I need. But I see your point. I also prefer the feel of the one x over the SG3. It just feels more solid.

I agree on the feel. I've been through batteries on my EVO3D. The last one would last about 30-minutes off the charger, but luckily a replacement was $10.

elesjuan 07-19-2012 10:32 PM

Running the S2E4GT from Crawl (sprint) with ICS 4.0.3.

Last I checked a couple months ago there was still no official ICS release for my device, but what I'm running is a stock deodexed 'beta' leak from Samsung, minus Touchwiz. Shits seriously fast and battery life is boss. Pretty heavy usage throughout the day and average 22 hours on each charge, though most of my usage is on the office Wifi. Network data (depending on signal strength) will take anywhere from 2 - 6 hours of that life away. The _ONLY_ thing that doesn't work is Android's built in picasa upload option from the gallery.

Wanting the S3 hardcore..

Saml01 07-24-2012 10:51 AM

Faux just released 008b8 with aroma installer. If you have a phone that uses his rom, this is the one to get. My sensation is at least 25% faster when compared to 007r2.

icantthink4155 07-24-2012 02:56 PM

I have an AOSP rom on my HTC Inspire, and its overclocked. They arent going to be doing a carrier update for ICS for this phone, they cite problems running the rom on the phone because its older and underpowered, but this Rom works perfect on my phone and I rarely have any issues.

Saml01 07-24-2012 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 905520)
How do you install this ----?
Simple RAZR V2 Android Homescreen by MylleZ - MyColorscreen
[IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=49601&dateline=1342750 677[/IG]


What format is the file in?

If its a zip you can just flash it in recovery.

mgeoffriau 08-02-2012 12:41 PM

Yay. ICS update for HTC Rezound released today.

concealer404 08-02-2012 12:51 PM

His and hers GS2 users checking in.

Her phone got the ICS update (we're on Sprint) just before she dropped it and shattered the screen.

My phone, nor her new phone have yet to receive the ICS update. ARG.

hustler 08-02-2012 02:18 PM

I'm a little frustrated that I have a 3-week old phone and can't load JB yet. The mobile device market is bullshit. I should be able to run whatever I want on any device I want. I don't understand how Microsoft can lose in court for not facilitating the use of competing products like Firefox or Chrome because they didn't have links to the alternatives on their website or whatever, yet we are stuck in this position.

Saml01 08-03-2012 08:33 PM

If you can suggest a viable solution for these massive companies to increase the speed at which they produce releases, distribute and support them them to hundreds of thousands of handsets on hundreds of wireless carriers please reach out to them. I am sure they will love to hear your proposal.

hustler 08-04-2012 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 911221)
If you can suggest a viable solution for these massive companies to increase the speed at which they produce releases, distribute and support them them to hundreds of thousands of handsets on hundreds of wireless carriers please reach out to them. I am sure they will love to hear your proposal.

They could release "pure" Jelly Bean like what the Nexus gets, that might help. I don't need Touchwiz or Sense, nor do I need all the bloatware.

How is it possible that AOSP, for example, already has a JB rom for the GS3, yet Samsung doesn't?

Reverant 08-04-2012 03:17 AM

Upgraded to ICS last night, can't say that I love it yet. The new keyboard is a welcome addition. Now I need to root it.

hustler 08-04-2012 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 911279)
Upgraded to ICS last night, can't say that I love it yet. The new keyboard is a welcome addition. Now I need to root it.

Who doesn't use Swiftkey3? If you've never used it, now is the time to try it, the prediction is scary good.

richyvrlimited 08-04-2012 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 911281)
Who doesn't use Swiftkey3? If you've never used it, now is the time to try it, the prediction is scary good.

I don't, can't stand it and the 'look' is needlessly fussy.

All I want to be able to do is view what I'm replying to in landscape mode, yet it seems to be an unfeasibly difficult thing to do on android.

Reverant 08-04-2012 03:09 PM

I also tried it and I am genuinely not impressed thus far - actually I prefer the stock ICS keyboard, which in landscape mode on my 4.3" display works really well.

elesjuan 08-04-2012 04:03 PM

It's hard to beat the stock ICS Swype keyboard, except the tablet version.. I hated that, so I quit using swype on my tablet.

richyvrlimited 08-04-2012 04:29 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Ignore the fact this is an iphone, but I want this:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1344112158

Not this

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1344112158

I have a bigger screen but can see far less, pointless.

elesjuan 08-04-2012 05:43 PM

1 Attachment(s)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1344116593

richyvrlimited 08-04-2012 05:52 PM

yeah that's no better, can you see anything that you're responding to as per the iPhone pic?

Saml01 08-04-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 911275)
They could release "pure" Jelly Bean like what the Nexus gets, that might help. I don't need Touchwiz or Sense, nor do I need all the bloatware.

How is it possible that AOSP, for example, already has a JB rom for the GS3, yet Samsung doesn't?

AOSP ported it to the SG3 and stability is not guaranteed. If you were a company like samsung would you rush the release of an OS onto your flagship phone only to anger consumers or would you thoroughly test it and play it safe?

If you want the latest and greatest from android as its available then get a google nexus. Hardware compatibility is guaranteed as they develop for their devices.

elesjuan 08-04-2012 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by richyvrlimited (Post 911436)
yeah that's no better, can you see anything that you're responding to as per the iPhone pic?

No, and I don't want to. The screen on my phone is larger than the entire iPhone and I can very easily type on that keyboard both in swype or touch typing.


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