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Old 09-30-2011, 08:51 AM
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Default Hey audiophiles, ? about todays Woot.

I would really like to get some surround sound going in my house. But I dont know much about recievers. From what I understand, with all the inputs this has, I can hook all my stuff into this, and then have 1 HDMI output to my tv and be done. Is that correct? Right now I have a Wii through component, xbox360s though composite, and cableboxDVR though HDMI to my tv.

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Pioneer VSX-521-K 5.1 Receiver w/ 3D-Ready HDMI (4), Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD, MCACC & Remote

Power
Amplifier Design: Direct Energy
Channels: 5.1
Power Output Per Channel(20Hz-20kHz,0.08%THD@8ohm): 80
Power Output Per Channel (1kHz@8ohm): 110
Power Output Per Channel (1kHz@6ohm): 125

Decoders & Formats
Digital Core DSP Engine: Texas Instruments Aureus
192K/24-Bit DACs: Yes
Dolby True HD: Yes
Dolby Digital Plus: Yes
Dolby Pro-Logic IIz: Yes
DTS-HD Master Audio: Yes
HDMI SACD Transfer: 2 Channel

Soundfield Calibration
Phase Control: Yes
Auto MCACC: Yes
EQ Bands: 5
Symmetric EQ: Yes
MCACC Memory: 1
Distance Adjustment: 0.1 feet

Listening Modes
Auto Surround: Yes
Stream Direct: Direct, Pure Direct
Advanced Surround: 9+1 Mode DPS
Front Stage Surround Advance: Yes
Headphone Surround: Yes

Audio Features
DSD to PCM Converter: 2 Channel
Auto Level Control: 2 Channel
Advanced Sound Retriever: 2 Channel
Sound Retriever AIR: Yes
Midnight Listening: Yes
Loudness: Yes
Tone Control: 2 Channel
Sound Delay (Lip Sync): 9 Frames

Video Processing
3-D Ready
HDMI Standby Through
HDMI 36-bit Deep Color
HDMI x.v. Color

Connectivity
HDMI Input / Output: 4 In (Rear) / 1 Out
Bluetooth Adapter Port: Optional AS-BT200 or AS-BT100
Component Video Input / Output: 2 In (Assignable)
Composite A/V Input / Output: 4 In / 1 Out (Rear)
Analog Audio Inputs / Output: 2 In / 1 Out
Digital Inputs / Output: 3 In
Pre-Amp Output: 2.1 Ch (SW, SB/FH)
Headphone: 1 Out
Front A/V Inputs: Mini
AM/FM Presets: 30 Preset AM / FM Tuner

Installation
On-Screen Display: Analog OSD
FL Demo Mode (Feature Flashing): Yes
Auto Power Down: Yes
FL Dimmer: Yes
Remote: System Remote Control
Sleep Timer: 30, 60, 90 min.

Types of Surround Modes – Two Channel Sources
Stereo
Stereo ALC
Straight Decode
Dolby Pro Logic II
Dolby Pro Logic IIx
Dolby Pro Logic IIz
Dolby Pro Logic II Movie
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Movie
Dolby Pro Logic II Music
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Music
Dolby Pro Logic II Game
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Game
Dolby Pro Logic IIz Height

Types of Surround Modes – Multi-Channel Sources
Stereo

Stereo ALC
Straight Decode
Dolby Pro Logic II Movie
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Movie
Dolby Pro Logic II Music
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Music
Dolby Digital EX
DTS-ES
DTS NEO: 6 Cinema
DTS NEO: 6 Music
Dolby Pro Logic IIz Height

Advanced Surround

Action
Drama
Ent. Show
Advanced Game
Sports
Classical
Rock/Pop
Unplugged
Ext. Stereo
F.S.S.

Auto Direct
Surround
Direct
Pure Direct

Input
Blu-ray
DVD
DVR/BDR
TV/Sat
CD
CDR/Tape
Tuner
Portable

Construction
Front Panel: Glossy Black
Large Speaker Terminals: 2
Dimensions: 17.16" W x 6.6" H x 14.27" D
Weight: 19.8 lbs
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Yes. Same as my Onkyo. I have the cable box, xbox 360 and apple tv hooked into the receiver via HDMI with one cable into my tv's input 1. Change the receiver to either cbl/sat, dvd or aux and it will do the work for you.

I'm actually thinking about picking up the newest version of my Onkyo 7.1 because it comes wifi ready, can be controlled via iphone and stream directly from pandora.
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
because it comes wifi ready, can be controlled via iphone and stream directly from pandora.
Super lame. Thanks for your answers.
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Originally Posted by icantthink4155
Super lame. Thanks for your answers.
Lame???!?!?!?!

I NEED MOAR TECH!!!!111!!1
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
Lame???!?!?!?!

I NEED MOAR TECH!!!!111!!1
Its the jealousy talking, that sounds pretty badass. Can you control it from Android too or just iOs?
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Originally Posted by icantthink4155
Its the jealousy talking, that sounds pretty badass. Can you control it from Android too or just iOs?
Not sure, but it only talked about itouch/iphone capability.

I know you can hook it up to your PC through the network, so I'm sure there's a way (or will be soon) to use Android as well.

Here's the one I think it is. I was reading about it in the new crutchfield and don't have it here with me.

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Definitely miles from my price range lol. For a fairly basic home theater setup is the woot one any good?
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Originally Posted by icantthink4155
Definitely miles from my price range lol. For a fairly basic home theater setup is the woot one any good?
I have no personal experience with Pioneer, but I would go off this if I was considering it for myself.

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-52...owViewpoints=1

Spec wise it looks like it has good features and power output, but I would still go off the reviews.

The Onkyo I linked before is the 7.2 model. Here's the same type of receiver, only 5.1 like you want.

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You already have the speakers I take it?
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I really like my onkyo 7.1 set-up. Very good value. Obviously not super high-end but it seems to be about the best you can get for $400-700.

I need to go through and set mine up again. My puppy chewed through one of the speaker wires so it's been on ~6.1 for a while...
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Originally Posted by icantthink4155
[W]ith all the inputs this has, I can hook all my stuff into this, and then have 1 HDMI output to my tv and be done. Is that correct? Right now I have a Wii through component, xbox360s though composite, and cableboxDVR though HDMI to my tv.
You're looking for HDMI transcoding and scaling. The description reads as if it does HDMI switching only, which agrees with the price tag. So no, I does not look like it does what you want. It's also only 5.1, which is kinda lame.
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Originally Posted by Ben
You're looking for HDMI transcoding and scaling. The description reads as if it does HDMI switching only, which agrees with the price tag. So no, I does not look like it does what you want. It's also only 5.1, which is kinda lame.
Yeah I forgot to mention that part. Like with my system (cause its a few years old), its only considered a HDMI switch so I still have to run the audio with optical cables. Like Ben said though, for that price range that's what you can expect to see nowadays.
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Originally Posted by Ben
You're looking for HDMI transcoding and scaling. The description reads as if it does HDMI switching only, which agrees with the price tag. So no, I does not look like it does what you want. It's also only 5.1, which is kinda lame.
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Yeah I forgot to mention that part. Like with my system (cause its a few years old), its only considered a HDMI switch so I still have to run the audio with optical cables. Like Ben said though, for that price range that's what you can expect to see nowadays.
So In order to do everything with one HDMI output I would need to connect stuff to the receiver with an HDMI?
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I just got a new TV literally two days ago. It's my first TV in 10 years and I was switching component video through my nearly-ten-year-old Denon up til two days ago. Now I have 2 HDMI (PS3, TiVo HD) and one component (receiver which switches DVD and nothing now) and MY GOD the input switching on the TV is ***** slow.

Not to mention that since I use a Harmony remote, I have to set the power-on delay to like 20 seconds with the new TV.

but the TV is beautiful. and way lighter than the 176 lb CRT I had.

believe me, the first thing I thought was "oh ****, new tech is gonna make me need all new components now!"
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Originally Posted by icantthink4155
So In order to do everything with one HDMI output I would need to connect stuff to the receiver with an HDMI?
Typically yes.

Most receivers do not convert between video formats, they just switch within them.

Do your Wii and Xbox not have HDMI outputs?
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Originally Posted by Ben
It's also only 5.1, which is kinda lame.
Yeah dawg, how will that **** run this:

http://www.acousticsounddesign.com/c...pid=1629&sc=69



here's a deal:
Amazon Amazon
Harman Kardon AVR 2600 $364.95



but this model appears to be in your price range: http://www.buy.com/prod/harman-kardo...211914611.html

Harman/Kardon AVR 1600 A/V Receiver - AVR1600 @ $199
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Typically yes.

Most receivers do not convert between video formats, they just switch within them.

Do your Wii and Xbox not have HDMI outputs?
Its possible to get HDMI cables for them, I just dont own them. No reason to unless I get a receiver that has multiple HDMI inputs. My TV only has 2 or 3.
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Originally Posted by icantthink4155
Its possible to get HDMI cables for them, I just dont own them. No reason to unless I get a receiver that has multiple HDMI inputs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you not asking about a receiver that has 4 HDMI inputs?

(Imagine the following being read in a kindergarten teacher's voice)

Darren has three HDMI-enabled devices, and a receiver with four HDMI inputs. If Darren plugs all of his HDMI-enabled devices into his receiver, how many open HDMI ports will be left?
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guess you want to buy hdmi.
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but this model appears to be in your price range: http://www.buy.com/prod/harman-kardo...211914611.html

Harman/Kardon AVR 1600 A/V Receiver - AVR1600 @ $199

wtf this was $199 this morning, now its $250... BOOOOO
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I don't want to turn this into a debate about "audiophile vs consumer" goods, but consider the price of this Pioneer, or even the H-K receiver, and how much stuff is packed into it. Sound quality is going to suffer hugely, amplifiers are going to be pretty anemic, D/A converters are going to be bottom shelf, ect. If I were you I'd save a few more months and get something you'll be happy with from longevity and audio quality standpoints.

Just my .02
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