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EO2K 02-20-2014 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by gearhead_318 (Post 1102892)
I'm gonna sell my NB to finance a build on my NA. It's because I'm a poor decision maker. Its gonna be bitchen'. My goal is 225hp to the wheels, probably on a stock exhaust. Imma get a kit from FM or Begi.

Sell NA as d0rift0 car for more than NB is worth, buy the used 2560 FM2 kit in the classifieds right now, make 225-250hp NB, profit ;)

Welcome back from the sandbox :bigtu:

gearhead_318 02-21-2014 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1104561)
Sell NA as d0rift0 car for more than NB is worth, buy the used 2560 FM2 kit in the classifieds right now, make 225-250hp NB, profit ;)

Welcome back from the sandbox :bigtu:

Thanks. I'm actually reconsidering getting the NA out here now, its $1000 to get it shipped out here and I'm getting the itch to start my project like right meow. Plus the NA doesn't have a torsen and the NB does, the only thing the NA has going for it is the roll bar and the fact that I like the way it drives a little more.

NA6C-Guy 02-21-2014 06:43 PM

So... I might be getting a Lincoln Town Car. Exact opposite of the Miata, but damn comfy. 2002, Executive model, black and black, low miles, super clean, $3000. I think I'm going to jump all over it.

viperormiata 02-21-2014 11:54 PM

I would ^ Take good care of it and it will last you a long time, as well. My brother loved his so much that he took it with him over to Germany, haha.

NA6C-Guy 02-21-2014 11:58 PM

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Everyone I have told so far about my plans have busted out laughing. They say they can't picture me in a Town Car. I can, driving in comfort, automatic, good a/c, smooth and quiet ride. A nice change after daily driving a ragged out Miata for 6 years. At least I have experience driving tractor trailers and big box trucks. That should be adequate training to drive such a gunboat of a car. Like driving two Miatas welded together end to end.

I also wouldn't mind a Mark VIII LSC

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393046809

olderguy 02-22-2014 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 1104970)
Everyone I have told so far about my plans have busted out laughing. They say they can't picture me in a Town Car. I can, driving in comfort, automatic, good a/c, smooth and quiet ride. A nice change after daily driving a ragged out Miata for 6 years. At least I have experience driving tractor trailers and big box trucks. That should be adequate training to drive such a gunboat of a car. Like driving two Miatas welded together end to end.

I also wouldn't mind a Mark VIII LSC

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1393046809

I loved the lines of the Mark VII. I had two of them; an 86 and an 89, then I got into Miatas.

Sparetire 02-22-2014 07:06 PM

Fucking Chrysler. Mom calls me and explains there's a ticking noise from the Jeep. Gets worse as she takes it home. Also starts making a nasty squealing sound. I figure its either a nasty ex. leak or more likely the crank pulley has given up. It's got 160K miles.

Get there this morning, nothing obviously wrong. Hugh. Fire it up. This POS has a rod knock like I expect from a LeMons car. Piece of utter substandard shit. This thing has torched a transmission (2 years ago at like 125K) its needed a new radiator at like 100K, its electronics periodically have oddball issues, its junk. I hate this POS. Come to find out as well that to use a 04 or newer engine (which are several hundred cheaper) I'll need to open that up and put a new reluctor wheel on the crank. After buying 3.7L worth of fail.

Looks like I will be doing my first short block rebuild on one of the most pathetic engines ever.

Fuck you Chrysler. Fuck you with a bowling ball and a cactus. I own 2 vehicles over 150K. My NA has been raced, off-roaded, and generally battered. My S10 has been jumped, pretty much never maintained properly, and reved way higher than it likes. both run like clock work. This fucking Liberty has been babied all its life, scheduled maintenance done, and its been costing $$ non stop.

This is why Chrysler can be bought by Italians and its a move for the better.

triple88a 02-22-2014 07:29 PM

Saw a wrangler on the highway yesterday going 50mph.. the license plate said "Y U RUSH ME"... because 50mph on the highway in the middle lane ya dumb bitch.

sixshooter 02-22-2014 08:09 PM

Chrysler makes crappy vehicles. Breaking news at eleven.

rleete 02-22-2014 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 1105136)
fucking Liberty

Had one. Those two words above describe it exactly.

What a piece of crap. Loved my Dakota (1993), bought the Jeep to replace it. Nothing but one problem after another. I credit that single vehicle to my recent dislike of working on cars.

good2go 02-22-2014 08:23 PM

Yeah, IDK about the newer Jeep motors. I've only had the ol' 4.0L straight six in a Wrangler and the trusty 5.2L V8 in a Grand Cherokee. Both of those were absolute gluttons for punishment and abuse.

triple88a 02-22-2014 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by good2go (Post 1105150)
Yeah, IDK about the newer Jeep motors. I've only had the ol' 4.0L straight six in a Wrangler and the trusty 5.2L V8 in a Grand Cherokee. Both of those were absolute gluttons for punishment and abuse.

My 4.0 was garbage... so was the 5 speed and the Tcase. The entire drive train was.. glad i got rid of it.

rleete 02-22-2014 10:14 PM

Had the 5.2l V-8 in the Dakota. Although it was still a 318 back then. Better mileage than the 3.7l V6 in the Jeep, and better power as well. Never a hiccup. When I replaced plugs at 110k, it looked like they had never been done - coulda sworn I did it at 80k or so - but it still ran.

Jeep needed new plugs every 25-30k or it would misfire, throw codes and go into limp mode.

Sparetire 02-22-2014 10:33 PM

Whats funny is if you look at the TQ on a 3.7 vs a 4.0 HO. The 4.0 is the better engine save for emissions. I will never understand why they did not at least try a cross-flow head on that engine with all else being more or less the same. When you floor a 3.7 its got no guts at all until it revs up, but it does not rev high so you sort of get decent output for a moment then its gone again. Seriously feels like a large 4 cylinder from the 80s, but with the mileage of an early 90s V8.

Honestly the 4.0 Cherokee is one of the few products from this vehicular downward spiral I would own. A friend had one that ran on 5 cylinders for like 30K miles because fried injector. It still kicked ass off road. Once the injector issue was resolved it was incredible. Basically it had a set of lift blocks for a Chevy and crappy 31 inch tires. We gutted it, mostly because of the smell. It had about 205K when he bought it. Not sure what it was at when he sold it.

NA6C-Guy 02-23-2014 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 1105136)
Fucking Chrysler. Mom calls me and explains there's a ticking noise from the Jeep. Gets worse as she takes it home. Also starts making a nasty squealing sound. I figure its either a nasty ex. leak or more likely the crank pulley has given up. It's got 160K miles.

Get there this morning, nothing obviously wrong. Hugh. Fire it up. This POS has a rod knock like I expect from a LeMons car. Piece of utter substandard shit. This thing has torched a transmission (2 years ago at like 125K) its needed a new radiator at like 100K, its electronics periodically have oddball issues, its junk. I hate this POS. Come to find out as well that to use a 04 or newer engine (which are several hundred cheaper) I'll need to open that up and put a new reluctor wheel on the crank. After buying 3.7L worth of fail.

Looks like I will be doing my first short block rebuild on one of the most pathetic engines ever.

Fuck you Chrysler. Fuck you with a bowling ball and a cactus. I own 2 vehicles over 150K. My NA has been raced, off-roaded, and generally battered. My S10 has been jumped, pretty much never maintained properly, and reved way higher than it likes. both run like clock work. This fucking Liberty has been babied all its life, scheduled maintenance done, and its been costing $$ non stop.

This is why Chrysler can be bought by Italians and its a move for the better.

I took the Liberty (pun intended) of marking in bold all of the key points and problems.

Braineack 02-23-2014 10:13 AM

why does the sport package on the X model of the G37 not give you the extra sports parts? (the shocks and brakes)

Like why even call it a sport package, if the only thing you're getting is 18" wheels, and slightly different seats, and paddle shifters.

rleete 02-23-2014 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1105240)
Like why even call it a sport package, if the only thing you're getting is 18" wheels, and slightly different seats, and paddle shifters.

Because stupid people don't know the difference.

Braineack 02-23-2014 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1105259)
Because stupid people don't know the difference.

Its dumb though. you cant get an X model with the 245mm tires, and sport shocks/brakes.

oh well. basically if you get an xS, you're basically securing the fact you got premium package and nav, plus paddle shifters, a different front fasica (barely), and 12-way adjustable seats. hella sport.

but good to know. I thought I'm getting an X model, but I don't need an S now.

good2go 02-23-2014 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1105240)
why does the sport package on the X model of the G37 not give you the extra sports parts? (the shocks and brakes)

Like why even call it a sport package, if the only thing you're getting is 18" wheels, and slightly different seats, and paddle shifters.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1105265)
Its dumb though. you cant get an X model with the 245mm tires, and sport shocks/brakes.

oh well. basically if you get an xS, you're basically securing the fact you got premium package and nav, plus paddle shifters, a different front fasica (barely), and 12-way adjustable seats. hella sport.

but good to know. I thought I'm getting an X model, but I don't need an S now.

I assume you are talking about a sedan then?

As for the coupe, in the later models, although you couldn't get the staggered wheel/tire setup (because AWD), you could get the larger brakes and 19x8.5 wheels (which could fit 245's), plus the sport suspension and VLSD.

If you have to have a sedan, you can always add (mod) the brakes/wheels/tires/paddle shift/seats/facia with stock sports parts and upgrade the suspension w/aftermarket. I haven't heard of anyone doing the VLSD swap though, so I can't speak to that.

Oscar 02-23-2014 01:45 PM

Lulz, 'sport' and slushbox with flappy paddles. Get a manual box. Or a decent car in the first place you flappy vagina.


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