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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BMCRace
It was a quick little itb setup I did for the 1.8

If anyone is interested in a 1.8 intake manifold we already have the head flange instock so I could build one very quickly.

Pricing is $700 shipped to anywhere in the USA
What type of design? Do you have any other similar designs you could post? thanks
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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It looks like they may be seperable.
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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a stock mustang TB is 65mm, but i'd imagine you could cut the flange for one of the larger aftermarket versions and it wouldnt make any difference. (assuming the bolt pattern is the same.) i dont think many people here really NEED much larger than a 65mm throttle body, considering most of us are running stock ~54mm throttles...
Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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It's hard to say. I don't think anyone has flow tested the throttle and intake manifold seperately to see which is the restriction at X horsepower.

The 65mm should flow about 45% better than the 54...

But again, without empirical testing, it's impossible to draw any conclusions. Could the people that have the programs that simulated the air flow in the manifolds give this a shot maybe?
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by therieldeal
IMO a ford 4.6 throttle body would be best, they are big, cheap, and easy to come by. they also have a standard 0-5v tps, and you can get them with a built in idle valve depending on the source vehicle.

In my experience, the Ford TBs have the weakest clock-spring in the world. So two things can happen, one the throttle doesn't close fast/good, and two it's so light that if your car bounces if pretty ridiculous when you end up stabbing the pedal.

I also still think a 60mm honda TB would be worlds above a 54mm stock TB. Not only is 60mm a 20% larger flow area, the shaft, from the factory, is designed to have flat edges and are less 'obtrusive' than the miata's shaft, providing even more flow area. Not to mention they are cheap as hell, can be ported for cheap at maxbore.com, you can go for a 65mm ITR TB, and they should come with idle vales, linkage, and TPSs that you can utilize easily.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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I'm thinking of buying an ebay im and modify the flange. What is your opinion?
The cost is extremely low if you consider that for a custom aluminum manifold here in Greece costs 600-700 dollars.
I am sure that I havent reinvented the wheel but it's an idea for the low budget bitches.
Something like this maybe

High Flow Air Intake Manifold Honda D series Civic CRX:eBay Motors (item 150392977810 end time Dec-05-09 14:40:02 PST)
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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ew....do a cast B16 IM...

BLOX SOHC CIVIC CRX INTAKE MANIFOLD D15B D16A D16Y D16Z:eBay Motors (item 140363533667 end time Dec-05-09 15:42:36 PST)
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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If yall would like that as a very budget option I can do that for yall.

Just send me what ever manifold you would like mounted to the miata head flange (either you supply or we can supply the head flange) and we can cut, weld, and even do the final port work if yall would like. For a very straight forward cut off the honda manifold weld it to a miata flange would cost $200 shipped back to you (not including the cost of the flange). You could use your factor Miatas head flange vs buying one of ours as well to save even more.

I am all about budget and finding a nice niche that works good for everyone. If I can provide a service that is a nice alternative then it does good for both of us.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Wow, these runners are huge! But is this going to flow better than stock bp?
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Those are 9" runners and, on the honda, probably makes the best power at 4000-7000, anything shorter probably makes best power at 7000-10000. You'll also need to cut off a few good inches, and if you fit it to a 1.6L flange, you'll need to cut the runners off leaving about 3" of stock runners so factor that in.
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I will use the stock bp flange for sure. So do you think this is the best cheap manifold money can buy to make my experiments?
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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the blox seems to be the cheapest, of you can go with an edelbrock one. performer or victory X
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Those are 9" runners and, on the honda, probably makes the best power at 4000-7000, anything shorter probably makes best power at 7000-10000. You'll also need to cut off a few good inches, and if you fit it to a 1.6L flange, you'll need to cut the runners off leaving about 3" of stock runners so factor that in.

The runner length on our Miata 1.6L manifold are 9.5", we are really trying to get yall some good mid range power.

-James
Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BMCRace
The runner length on our Miata 1.6L manifold are 9.5", we are really trying to get yall some good mid range power.

-James
"midrange" on a high powered miata with an intake manifold is 5500-7000.
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Huh yeah the honda TB sounds like a win.
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we had him do all the work and then this died lol
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
we had him do all the work and then this died lol
see post #201.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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LOL well he hasnt even done that anymore
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Blahhhhhhhhh comeon someone put a 1.8 mani on the market.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by faeflora
blahhhhhhhhh comeon someone put a 1.8 mani on the market.
+1, wtf



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