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Old 08-07-2006, 07:48 PM   #81
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that exhuast only fits 2wd ill have to look I was thinking the 500 dollar apexi 3inch catback with the 3inch apexi downpipe I dont know the price but I would need some time to get omeny for that think its worth it?
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:49 PM   #82
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whats the recirc kit and where could i get it?
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:08 PM   #83
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one more question with the stuff im getting there not including exhaust what can I turn the psi up to? Whats stock psi and when i install the bov where will it be at?
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Why cant I have a custom exhaust made for cheaper?
Mandrel benders are nasty expensive. Shops buy them because they pay for themselves with good profit margin. You can have one custom made, and forget about shipping charges, and get exactly what you want.

Trouble is, when you call a shop out of the blue it's Cha-Ching! So F-that, call around, have your buddies who know other buddies call around. Do you know the guy who works at Midas. Ask them to price match, etc. Those e-bay prices are pretty cheap though. It's a matter of finding the right place.

ON THE APEX-I EXHAUST.

The N-1 is an old standard. Some say it's slightly less than 3" although I think it's close enough. It does have the stock orientation of multiple resonators, which will quiet the exhaust significantly, while increasing backpressure. It's one of the quietest available.

The downpipe however is not 3" It starts at 2.5 expands to 3, then necks-down? to bolt to stock parts. Not good, although it's been so long on the exhaust parts I could be mistaken.

If you want one of the best, look for Thermal R&D. It's about 560, and also necks down to fit the stock cat. Which gets cut off when you install a high-flow 3" cat or test pipe.

The Megan Racing is a good balance of quality and cheap price. But really, it's just piping. Different brands will vary slightly in price, performance, quality, availability, and sound. It's a personal preference really.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:23 PM   #85
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one more question with the stuff im getting there not including exhaust what can I turn the psi up to? Whats stock psi and when i install the bov where will it be at?
Stock psi runs about 11 psi. Maybe 12. The stock BOV leaks above 12 psi so it's not higher than that. Installing the bov will allow you to raise the boost with the MBC. I ran 15 psi with the parts you are buying. Many people feel this is a safe number. Ultimately, it's up to you. (obligatory disclaimer) Nobody is going to be there for you if something bad happens to your car. A wideband, or on a dyno with a wideband is the only way you'll know for sure.

On the other question, the "recirc. kit" re-circulates the air that "blows off" when you shift. This prevents a temporally rich condition from losing that already measured air. It's available everywhere, probably on the site your buying from, and I know it's on ebay.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:59 PM   #86
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I loved my miata but wow this car is so much better.
i see where you're coming from, if on the drag strip.
i used to fiend for a 1g talon....just decided to stick with the miata and boost it and so on til i come back from basic....then its bye bye mx5, hello fd rx7
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:00 PM   #87
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I stopped reading after I read your ebay exhaust post.. I'm going to say this only once.. You get what you pay for. I had an exhaust shop build me a 3" back exhaust. It was about 800-900 bucks.. it should be your FIRST mod. I would buy Dejon tool UICPs cause you can CHOOSE your bov flange.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:03 PM   #88
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In addition your mod list should read this:

1> Exhaust
2> Everything after exhaust

I mean my opinion MAY be wrong, but its backed by about 5 years of DSM experience and about 1,000 other DSMers :-P
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:40 PM   #89
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im gonna go ahead and get the mbc,boost gauge,i/c piping,bov,and the 190 fuel pump. I should be fine with just that, Then Ill throw on an exhaust.
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I have been humbeld by the DSM knowledge i have some more reading to do apperently. i got my intake piping done custom for 110 dollars plus couplers 70 bucks check your local muffler shop with a mandrel bender since htey have the stockers to go of they shoudl be able to replicate it in bigger pipe or just steel or aluminum wich will hold up better in boost than platic.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:13 AM   #92
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im agreeing with newbsauce exhaust then everything else, your list is ok but it looks like your just buying the cheaper parts first. The fuel pump isnt needed with those small mods, and intercooler piping is useless with out a intake, look at the injen kit. That blow off valve your looking at is not a real greddy its a knockoff which have been proven to leak, not a good idea in my opinion. Nothing you listed is going to give any noticable hp except turning up the boost with the mbc.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:37 PM   #93
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dont worry ive changed my ideas after seeing dsmtuning
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:00 PM   #94
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i like my miata and hope to make it faster than my eclipse, but theres nothin like dumpin a clutch on a 300 hp awd car and only hearing a chirp from the tires
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even though i had one i wouldnt recommend a 16g for not much more money you can get a turbo that will put out much hp. go to www.forcedperformance.net and check out the fp3052 thats what i would have got if i had kept it, bolts to the factory manifold.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:20 PM   #96
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its 1200 thats way more
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:28 PM   #97
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yea twice as much but try gettin 500+ hp on pump gas with a 16g
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:10 PM   #98
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you got a point
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the evo 3 will hit 400+ that is nothing to sneeze at.;
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you got a point to my set up is gonna be 275-300 hp wouldnt the small 16g be fine for that? I dot plan on going any higher
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