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Old 06-23-2007, 01:37 AM   #21
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I understand from a friend in PCA that there are guys running 944's with LS1 conversions. Very fast.
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I wonder if you can shove an LS1 in the 928, jesus that's the perfect automobile.
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porsche LS1 conversions are the ****.
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porsche LS1 conversions are the ****.
that...might...be...my next project.

I've never read good things about the V8 in hte 928 once they hit 100k, an ls1 swap would be the cats ***.
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the V8 in the 928 is pretty much the 944 engine doubled. Twice the PITA.
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the V8 in the 928 is pretty much the 944 engine doubled. Twice the PITA.
something about the casting, after 100k they go to **** and the block can't be bored out or somerthing, I can't rememeber maybe it's BS.
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I remember reading (maybe from an old R&T) that the biggest problem with 928's was the clutch on manual cars - only good for about 11-12K between changes. The auto's were actually sourced from Mercedes and were bulletproof. Somebody who works across the street from me has a beautiful S4 - even with stock exhaust it sounds sweet when he gets on it.
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ooooooh s4 ftw!
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I remember reading (maybe from an old R&T) that the biggest problem with 928's was the clutch on manual cars - only good for about 11-12K between changes. The auto's were actually sourced from Mercedes and were bulletproof. Somebody who works across the street from me has a beautiful S4 - even with stock exhaust it sounds sweet when he gets on it.
there was a beautiful dark grey, grey market car on ebay about a year ago, went for like 15k :(
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find me a CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN 928 shell with a blown V8
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:46 PM   #30
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and the 930.

0-60 in 1989 in 4.9 seconds, considering the supra TT and mitsu 3000 VR4 could do it in like 5.2 or 5.3 that's damn quick for the day.

The 89 930 was the reason that the 88-89 944 Turbo S was discontinued. The 952S stomped the 930 in every category back in the day. Porsche purist couldnt have a front engine wasserpumper trumping the flagship car. I have an article in a PCA Panorama that rehashes the comparison. For a third of the cost the the 952S was the performance car to get.
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something about the casting, after 100k they go to **** and the block can't be bored out or somerthing, I can't rememeber maybe it's BS.
The blocks are nikasil(sp) and something else. They dont not take being bored to well. And yes the 944 is 1/2 the 928 motor.
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The 89 930 was the reason that the 88-89 944 Turbo S was discontinued. The 952S stomped the 930 in every category back in the day. Porsche purist couldnt have a front engine wasserpumper trumping the flagship car. I have an article in a PCA Panorama that rehashes the comparison. For a third of the cost the the 952S was the performance car to get.
with a 0-60 of 5.5 the 944 turbo was most certainly not quicker than the 930, the 930 was the quickest production car available in germany at the time.
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know a kid near campus that bought one to make it into a racecar.

Apparently it is so annoying to work on that he hasn't done anything but put a loud exhaust on it. He says 400whp, my miata says stock. ...ricer

They are good track cars if you are realistic about the costs and like to work on porsches. We have some very cool ones show up at NASA events!
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Here you have a nice site:

http://www.944racing.de/951umbau.html

It's in German, but it is with a very nice build diary. He's changing the stock 944 into a track car.
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with a 0-60 of 5.5 the 944 turbo was most certainly not quicker than the 930, the 930 was the quickest production car available in germany at the time.
Your right....I need to dig out that Panorama located in my closet...They conceeded that the 951 was the better car, but the 930 won because of the tradition of the car.(air cooled purist you know)

But the 951(yes I said it was a 952, until I got my wits about me) with 247hp was a formidable machine...Never drove one. You could replace the KLR and DME chips in the computer and instantly grab another 30+ horses and more torque. Autothority used to make some badd *** aftermarket stuff for the Porsches and BMW's.

Not a funny story, but we had a PCA event down in Sarasota about 6 years ago. We gathered near a shop that moved to a new location and they were having a grand opening. They also had a dyno. This poor guy puts his 951 S on the dyno and literally blows the bottom of his block apart. Chunks of metal everywhere along with oil and water and lots of it.Apparently he had a Lindsay electronic boost controller, or something along those lines, that had failed. Somehow the boost spiked to 21psi right before the engine gave up the ghost. You could see the dyno plots right on the screen. The people standing around watching the runs, myself included, just quietly exited the building.
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Had a 944 turbo for a while. Fast, handled well but the thing was a maintenance pig. Electrical problems, blown head gasket, changing a clutch is a class A bitch! Make sure you change the timing and balance shaft belts every 30k miles and adjust at the recommended intervals. In my opinion a turbo Miata is almost as fast and more fun because you can drop the top.
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If you pick a 944 up get a couple of the specialty tools for doing the belts. My dad is a Porschephile and has had 3 or 4 944 turbos and 1 NA. I help him do one of his first belt changes back when he first got the car and it was a bitch. He got some of the cheap porsche imatation tools from pelican parts, and has had quite a bit of practice. I watched him do a belt change the other day and now he speeds right through it in no time at all. It is amazing what a couple of tools and some practice will do.

But I agree you have to take the damn thing completely apart because everything is crammed in there. Alot of the maintance parts arn't any more expensive(belts, plugs, wires, hoses), but upgrade parts are expensive and frequency of maintance gets expensive.
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