Notices
Insert BS here A place to discuss anything you want

The Science of Nutrition

Old Jan 14, 2014 | 09:19 PM
  #201  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

Good rebuttal to the USNWR article:

Is the Paleo Diet the Worst In the World? | Mark's Daily Apple
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 10:22 AM
  #202  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,402
Total Cats: 7,523
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
FWIW there are lots of fat people (with obviously broken metabolisms) who exercise a lot, eat low-fat, and don't lose weight.
This is something we can easily agree on.

The supposed logic behind the "low fat" trend escapes me for much the same reasons as that behind the "low carb" trend. Neither one seems to make an obvious accounting for total caloric load.

What's really kind of funny is when you look at two products side-by-side on a supermarket shelf, wherein one is a low-fat alternative to the other. (Peanut butter is a good example here.) The "low fat" version almost invariably has a caloric density similar to, and in many cases higher than, the version which it purports to replace.


Actually, a lot of things about the grocery store confuse me. Like laundry detergent.

Typically, we expect to experience a cost-per-unit savings when buying in bulk. This is certainly true when purchasing things like cars, iron ore, cocaine, and so on. So why does the 128oz bottle of liquid laundry soap cost $15.99 while the 64 oz bottle costs $7.99? That's an extra 0.015625 cents per ounce, and I'm certain that the smaller bottles cost more (on a per-ounce basis) to manufacture and distribute- more plastic, more handling, more transactional costs, etc.

Or the container of laundry soap that proudly exclaims "25% MORE LOADS than 72 loads." Well, yes- 90 is 25% more than 72, but how exactly is this relevant to anything at all? Is 72 a historically standard number of loads of laundry to get out of a box of soap? For that matter, what standards agency determines the formula for dividing mass (of soap) by loads (of laundry), to come out with a ratio of ounces to loads? Couldn't I advertise a box of soap as containing any arbitrarily large number of "loads," simply by specifying the amount of soap to be used per load as an arbitrarily small measure? Is there some kind of ANSI or ISO standard for how much effective cleaning power a "load" of soap is defined as, and how this is to be measured? At least with motor oil we have API standardized tests run by independent labs. So far as I've been able to determine, there is no American Soap Institute.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 10:25 AM
  #203  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

i made stir fry and rice last night, but i cant cook rice, so it was a healthier dinner since we didnt eat the rice.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 10:48 AM
  #204  
Oscar's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
From: Bolton, UK
Default

I used to cook rice like TuningDoneRong tuned cars; add enough fuel, add a little more for safety, just a little more, **** it dump it all in. You end up with a black smoke belching slow POS and a pan full of solid cement-like rice.

I'm also down to 190lbs today. Started at 212ish mid-December. Today was a good day.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 02:14 PM
  #205  
Scrappy Jack's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,799
Total Cats: 179
From: Central Florida
Default

Good work, Oscar. Just think: when you get back into your Miata, you'll have a better weight-to-power ratio without even turning a wrench on the car.

Joe - Did you compare "serving size" on that laundry detergent? That is, some of the more concentrated formulas require much less to be used per load of laundry. Comparing concentrated vs non-concentrated would skew the numbers quite a bit.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 02:57 PM
  #206  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

Originally Posted by Oscar
I used to cook rice like TuningDoneRong tuned cars; add enough fuel, add a little more for safety, just a little more, **** it dump it all in. You end up with a black smoke belching slow POS and a pan full of solid cement-like rice.

I'm also down to 190lbs today. Started at 212ish mid-December. Today was a good day.
I was 180 in Oct, I'm 176 today. But I took a long hiatus from the gym after thanksgiving and I can barely lift what I was at, so I'm sure all i lost was muscle. I'm still fat.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 03:56 PM
  #207  
Oscar's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
From: Bolton, UK
Default

To be honest, I haven't seen a gym from the inside since I had physical therapy for a knee injury 6 years ago. I take out my MTB a couple of times a week and have been on a keto diet alone. I can only imagine if I actually start proper exercises
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 04:02 PM
  #208  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

Have you been taking Potato Starch?
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 04:04 PM
  #209  
Oscar's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
From: Bolton, UK
Default

No, I've had some trouble finding something comparable to the unmodified starch you mentioned earlier. I did order psyllium for my pooping needs. Should be here tomorrow or the day after.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 04:11 PM
  #210  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

Bob's Red Mill store finder:
http://www.bobsredmill.com/dealer-locator.html

And here's an alternative, plantain flour:
Plantain Flour Uses and Information

I suspect that a lot of potential issues with a long term keto diet will be mitigated by Resistant/Indigestible Starch/Fiber
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 04:49 PM
  #211  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

bob's Red Mill sponsors my buddy's cycling team. We got dem grains, son.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 05:03 PM
  #212  
Oscar's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
From: Bolton, UK
Default

Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
Bob's Red Mill store finder:
http://www.bobsredmill.com/dealer-locator.html

And here's an alternative, plantain flour:
Plantain Flour Uses and Information

I suspect that a lot of potential issues with a long term keto diet will be mitigated by Resistant/Indigestible Starch/Fiber
Here's a hint:
Location: Amsterdam area, the Netherlands

Old Jan 15, 2014 | 05:09 PM
  #213  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

Originally Posted by Oscar
Here's a hint:
Location: Amsterdam area, the Netherlands

One time, back in 2001, I was in Amsterdam and I saw a dude banging a mannequin in a window of some *****-house...only the mannequin moved and it was a tranny. It was pretty sexy.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 05:13 PM
  #214  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,402
Total Cats: 7,523
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by Oscar
Here's a hint:
Location: Amsterdam area, the Netherlands
What state is "the Netherlands" in? Never heard of it.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 05:26 PM
  #215  
mgeoffriau's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,388
Total Cats: 474
From: Jackson, MS
Default

Originally Posted by Joe Perez
What state is "the Netherlands" in? Never heard of it.
Probably Pennsylvania.

Attached Thumbnails The Science of Nutrition-xl_5716_amish-family-finedininglovers-001.jpg  
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 05:49 PM
  #216  
Oscar's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
From: Bolton, UK
Default

^ How you see us.

How we see you:



Attached Thumbnails The Science of Nutrition-murrica.jpg  
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 06:23 PM
  #217  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

oh LOL I never noticed you were in Dutchland!
Hmm, how about just sticking a raw green plantain in your morning smoothie?

heh many years ago I visited Holland and met up with Nico Van Steen. This was before gay miata owners got together and created mt.net.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 07:17 PM
  #218  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

get it from ireland.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 07:37 PM
  #219  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,402
Total Cats: 7,523
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by Oscar
^ How you see us.

How we see you:
As much as I hate to admit this, if you take away the gun, that picture is actually a lot more accurate than the one mgeoffriau posted. Especially if you are in the south-eastern states.
Old Jan 15, 2014 | 07:48 PM
  #220  
z31maniac's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,693
Total Cats: 222
From: OKC, OK
Default

Just needs a bible for my part of the country.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:03 PM.