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Old 01-21-2009, 06:02 PM   #21
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I am going to guess that the majority who doubt global warming are Republicans.
I believe in 10% ethanol mix in my gas.
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I am going to guess that the majority who doubt global warming are Republicans.

Figure that one out...following the teachings of a political party over science!!


Edit: By the way, it is a worldwide AVERAGE temperature increase. It doesn't mean that it is never going to get cold again!
If all the scientist in the world agreed that there is global warming then fine.

Kind of like the media behind using ethanol to extend the supply of fuel, but not saying that the miles per gallon will go down, thus causing more fuel to be consumed in the long run.

I don't follow the teachings of any political party. I come up with my own conclusions based on the fact that the "science" behind global warming is what, maybe 50 years old, yet we can trace the heating and cooling of the Earths climate back millions of years, but throw that out.

if it does start to cool down then what? Then the democrats and Al Gore will declare victory for curbing the warming effect, and the Republicans will say they told you so there was no warming in the 1st place.

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If all the scientist in the world agreed that there is global warming then fine.

List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there's an incomplete list if you want to see the "nays"

the thing is, you probably wont ever get all scientists to agree on much.

consider the mere existence of the Flat Earth Society!
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if it does start to cool down then what? Then the democrats and Al Gore will declare victory for curbing the warming effect, and the Republicans will say they told you so there was no warming in the 1st place.

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When portions of the earth become inhabitable in some regions, you can concede defeat, because that's what its about. Its about who's right and wrong, not environmental responsibility.

Earth is going to shake us off like a wet dog.
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When portions of the earth become inhabitable in some regions, you can concede defeat, because that's what its about. Its about who's right and wrong, not environmental responsibility.

Earth is going to shake us off like a wet dog.
you bitch slap mother gaia and she'll kick you squah in the nutz
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If all the scientist in the world agreed that there is global warming then fine.

Kind of like the media behind using ethanol to extend the supply of fuel, but not saying that the miles per gallon will go down, thus causing more fuel to be consumed in the long run.

I don't follow the teachings of any political party. I come up with my own conclusions based on the fact that the "science" behind global warming is what, maybe 50 years old, yet we can trace the heating and cooling of the Earths climate back millions of years, but throw that out.

if it does start to cool down then what? Then the democrats and Al Gore will declare victory for curbing the warming effect, and the Republicans will say they told you so there was no warming in the 1st place.

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No one is debating if it actually exists, there is way too much evidence to disagree. Its warming, question being are humans causing it.


Considering we're releasing billions of years of stored hydrocarbons, I have trouble believing we're having zero impact.
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you bitch slap mother gaia and she'll kick you squah in the nutz
I'll expect the nation to respect climate change right after we stop telling children that some fairy-tale god created all this exactly how it is, and how "faith" trumps a little concept called math, which is a concept that comes from the same fiction novel that claims women are 2-ribs short of a man (which they aren't considering most of us were taught this garbage).

But hey, it wouldn't be America if we didn't have a president that didn't shove evangelical christianity up our asses via our children, who are innocent, which makes them much easier to corrupt at an early age. So next time you guys talk **** about a president, who most likely has a laundry list of corporate interests, don't forget who got us here, and who brought socialist buy-outs to the table...so at least give Barry a chance, its not like you have a choice.
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I am not debating that the world is warmer today than it was say 20 years ago. I just don't buy the whole "man is causing warming" theory. Mother nature alone produces more CO2 and greenhouse gases on her own than we do. Do we contribute? Sure we do, a very, very small percentage. Now, do I think as human beings we should be responsible and use technology to do better, curb our dependence on fossil fuels and so on? Sure I do. That is progress. That is what we should strive to do as human beings. But, the Earth does go through cyclic climate changes, and has been since the dawn of time. Are we in a upward warming trend or heading towards a cooling off period? Only time will tell.
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I am not debating that the world is warmer today than it was say 20 years ago. I just don't buy the whole "man is causing warming" theory. Mother nature alone produces more CO2 and greenhouse gases on her own than we do. Do we contribute? Sure we do, a very, very small percentage. Now, do I think as human beings we should be responsible and use technology to do better, curb our dependence on fossil fuels and so on? Sure I do. That is progress. That is what we should strive to do as human beings. But, the Earth does go through cyclic climate changes, and has been since the dawn of time. Are we in a upward warming trend or heading towards a cooling off period? Only time will tell.
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I am not debating that the world is warmer today than it was say 20 years ago. I just don't buy the whole "man is causing warming" theory. Mother nature alone produces more CO2 and greenhouse gases on her own than we do. Do we contribute? Sure we do, a very, very small percentage. Now, do I think as human beings we should be responsible and use technology to do better, curb our dependence on fossil fuels and so on? Sure I do. That is progress. That is what we should strive to do as human beings. But, the Earth does go through cyclic climate changes, and has been since the dawn of time. Are we in a upward warming trend or heading towards a cooling off period? Only time will tell.
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where does the oxygen come from, and what has man done to hinder its production? BBQ-ing dinosaur doesn't help either.
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I am not debating that the world is warmer today than it was say 20 years ago. I just don't buy the whole "man is causing warming" theory. Mother nature alone produces more CO2 and greenhouse gases on her own than we do. Do we contribute? Sure we do, a very, very small percentage. Now, do I think as human beings we should be responsible and use technology to do better, curb our dependence on fossil fuels and so on? Sure I do. That is progress. That is what we should strive to do as human beings. But, the Earth does go through cyclic climate changes, and has been since the dawn of time. Are we in a upward warming trend or heading towards a cooling off period? Only time will tell.
humans may not create all that carbon dioxide, but we also eliminate the ability for the earth to reprocess CO2 by cutting down topical rain forests to grow coffee so we dont get headaches in the morning.

to assume that there is one single component of this effect is missing the big picture.

we add to the problem and we remove part of the natural solution. double whammy.

my gf is finishing up her masters in environmental science and it's amazing what kind of interrelationships there are in the environment.

did you know that something as simple as tilling soil prior to planting crops actually releases carbon dioxide into the atmosphere? it's about .5 tons of carbon dioxide per acre per year. roughly the same as a month of normal driving.

untilled soil does not release co2 and in fact as the plants growing in it die and decompose, increases its carbon dioxide content. about 6 acres of untilled corn field sucks up about a year's worth of the average car's carbon emissions.

so while you're curbing your use of fossil fuels, keep in mind that organic farming practices are an equally important part of being environmentally responsible.
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my state doesn't spontaneously combust during the summer with homosexuals though
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so while you're curbing your use of fossil fuels, keep in mind that organic farming practices are an equally important part of being environmentally responsible.
Then theres people like me, who still don't buy the Liberal media's (Al Gore) bullshit about Global warming.

I cut the Cats off all my vehicles
Make sure to buy the oldest and shittiest 2 stroke lawnboy lawnmower I can find, then use it 3 times a week
Use a 2 stroke weed eater to trim and edge
2 stroke lawn vacuum
I perform 100 - 300 google searches in any one hour of the day
Replaced every mercury filled fluorescent lamp in my house with a 100 watt halogen which burn 24/7/365
I never turn off an of my PCs, televisions, radios, Home Theater, monitors, I leave the windows open in winter to heat the outside, I Crank up my A/C to 60 degrees in the summer, leave my cars idling for long periods of time unnecessarily, make extra sure to fuel every vehicle I have on "Ozone alert" days, don't fully insert the fume collector (if applicable) against the filler tube in my car, all while talking on a cellular telephone thats made of plastic, wearing plastic based shoes, clothing, sunglasses, and driving a gas guzzling car all while running the freaking everloving **** out of it. **** you, Earth!
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my state doesn't spontaneously combust during the summer though
One word: Hurricanes.
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I am not debating that the world is warmer today than it was say 20 years ago. I just don't buy the whole "man is causing warming" theory. Mother nature alone produces more CO2 and greenhouse gases on her own than we do. Do we contribute? Sure we do, a very, very small percentage. Now, do I think as human beings we should be responsible and use technology to do better, curb our dependence on fossil fuels and so on? Sure I do. That is progress. That is what we should strive to do as human beings. But, the Earth does go through cyclic climate changes, and has been since the dawn of time. Are we in a upward warming trend or heading towards a cooling off period? Only time will tell.
We're burning 80 MILLION barrels of oil a day in the world. Can you even imagine how much that is?

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Imagine 80 million of these..



Do you agree we will run out of oil?

Well if you do, then oil is a large collection of stored energy, approx 4 billion years worth. Considering many people think we have already/will hit peak oil production in the next few years, we are on our way to completely exhausting and readmitting 4 billion years worth of stored energy back into the atmosphere. Maybe we might have an impact; you think?
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