this.

but make sure you buy a CPO car, when my mom's old E55 spun a bearing we got a replacement engine and supercharger rebuild for the cost of fluids (didn't matter that a 19 year old bro was driving it at the time, blasting that Papa Roach). such a great deal.

Luxury, refinement and performance all in one package.

However, their is a problem. 2000 to about 2006 were more problematic than prior years due to various changes in where and how they built the cars.

For example. If I had to recommend something for you id say a 2004 - 2006 CL600. You have an entire V12 to build up. Also has ABC. Fantastic technology that was banned in F1 it was so good. Problem is, its finicky as hell and prone to spontaneous failure. Their is no aftermarket replacement for the system and the components aren't cheap. Aside from that you have to deal with the flaky STAR system which used some strange interface between the computers which always caused a problem. I believe it was replaced in 2006.

So yea. Thats just one amazing car in their line. Everything else has its own quirks. I think the only one I found that people said universally is bulletproof is the CLK430 and anything with Airmatic or whatever it is that's not ABC.

BUT.... if you can handle the repairs to the ABC which are not difficult along with the parts, which are kinda expensive, the CL is probably the most car you can get for the money. Not to mention its exclusive as hell. Their just isnt that many of them period. If you got 50k to spend, get a 2006+. But it wont leave you much money for mods.

man the ML63 we had for like two weeks was a ------- turd. stick to the cars, min

Dont get an early R/T. I havent looked at Vipers in a long time and Im took lazy to look anything up so youll have to verify, but Im pretty sure the early R/Ts didnt have A/C, Heat, or radio, and after a few years some of them became dealer options.

The GTS had it standard, has a stronger motor, and looks way more awesome.

Plus almost noone DDs a viper so most of them are really low miles.

I found this one on viper alley for 40k and it has like 8K miles. I have seen the GTSs as low as high 20s,
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340076438

Personally I like the simple interior
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340076438

More pictures to show their badassery
'https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340076438
Finally found one on some CCW 505as
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340076438

you can't meet those goals for that cash.

to have your a car as fast as your miata and daily reliable is like, le hueg budget.

you can have a turbo S2000 to be super-duper fast but it's hardly sexy.

also you're just going to buy another miata.

Yeah a modded viper might meet your needs here's a twin turbo one for just a little more than you posted
http://www.viperalley.com/classified...2&cat=2&page=1

GTS vipers do have a nice shape

In your price range and without a doubt the most dripping wet, sexy machine in existence. You could bring it to Italy and have swarms of women desperate to felate you with every blip of the throttle.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340078559

I disagree, his miata does/should/may (choose your own phrasing) have alot of power for a miata but Its not gonna be that fast.

Hes not gonna need 1K/800/700hp in a normal (heavier) car to be as fast as a 500hp miata.

Example I found an LS1 swapped miata that trapped 110MPH. Thats not that far off of stock LS1 fbodies or even GTOs which weigh like twice as much as a miata..

Same LS1 swapped miata on a 100 shot, so around 450hp trapped 120mph and heavier Z06s with a little more hp are trapping as high as 130 mph.

I guess what im trying to say is hp to weight isnt everything, there is alot more variables. 500 to 600whp Fbodys are everywhere go drive one that can hook and see how fast they are before you start talking 800hp and up.

Friends car's dyno, found out later it had a broken rear at the time of the dyno and hes probably got an extra 50-70hp now. Its built for road racing and autoX but it can still hook pretty good from a dig or low roll and its nasty. People hear about the 1k hp cars all the time and forget just how fast a 500-600hp car is.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340078705

A bone stock C6 Z06 will boogie even though it "only" has 505hp.

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gts omg so sexxyy

more info on that car omg I'm selling my C5

Hey hey how about this one? Should be pimping for ya.

https://www.miataturbo.net/cars-sale-trade-6/1992-mazda-miata-turbo-hardtop-%24%246000-obo-66574/

No.


OK I want to add something critical my criteria:

1. Reliable.
2. Comes with a factory warranty. CPO is just fine.

You just cut off almost all the cars posted.
I'm pretty sure this narrows you down to a European car, or a Vette.

Reliable.
Warranty.
4:1 power ratio.

You're limited to motorcycles. Tard.

I wonder how many more pages of trolling til everyone finally gives up

Warranty? STFU
just get an AMG, M5 or IS-F and fix your miata

Hmm if i got a bimmer we would have very similar garages.

I have a foreter xt that i am building a motor for
Also my turbo miata

M5 looks nifty. 500hp/tq yowazs

I dont think the warranty will cover sawzawing random ---- on the car.

there is a guy on one of my local forums selling a completely built STI with a rotated 35r for 35 grand.

car is a rocket.
i would buy that. pm if you want more info.

How about i build my own subie :p

how about you pay someone to build your subie instead of making it just like your miata?

I think it would be bad effin a$$ if you built your fxt to like 500-600. seriously

For you I would definitely stay away from highly tuned subarus. I love them but not the most durable platform for really big power.
Just get an M5 with the manual(SMG sucks). You will need to have the ecu upgraded by the dealer so you can turn off the traction control.
v10 sounds awesome at 8k but don't expect to run away from c6zo6s

Hows ez chippabiliry/moddability with these m5s? Any year to go for?

Regarding subie, i am going to just go for 350/400 to the wheel.

bro I smoked one of those in my C5 Z06

puke

I just said that, I mean mid 12s isn't slow but it's not fast. a lower rear end ratio would help a lot if you want to drag it. hell some dude was running and exhaust, drag radials and 150 shot of nitrous and running mid to high 10s.
As for for how tunable, very good but you will pay for it-mostly ESS or G power supercharger systems up to 8-900hp or something. Fair reliability
You can pay Dinan 32K for a built stroker motor that revs to 9K and makes like 700hp NA or something
I think the manual came out in 08 or 9 don't remember

On second thought, Fae just needs to bleach his ------- and get some of his rich old johns to spring for an underground racing Gallardo or Viper. 1500-1700hp on race gas. Those things are FAST.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340174316
^ I'd rather be in the 'slow' M5 than in that

So it could sit broken in his garage next to his Miata? :rofl:

If he had a reliable 400whp FXT he'd be dead. That's where mine was but I'm not retarded and I'm still alive!

:giggle:

But then he's pretty much guarranteed to die in any one of the cars being suggested to him anyway, lol.

Twin turbo viper? Twin turbo lambo? Over 1000hp? Really? LOL

Also unless its OEM with warrantee or backed by a serious aftermarket company who will install the setup for him and service it, he's pretty much guarranteed to have another broken car too.

Miata is hands down one of the easiest/simplest cars out there compared to other jap/euro, and he managed to have his down for the past 2 years

Min: get a turbo Busa:D

We're really just talking to ourselves here anyway, right? He had this same thread before he got the Suby.

If this were a real thread he should just buy this:

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/3078699017.html

Put a GTO Procharger and supporting mods, and call it a day.

Yup, pretty much.

Needs more armor all.

Yes i have thought about cts v again.


What i realllly want though is a porsche 911. But is there a point to getting a nonturbo version?

Time for some test drives

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/3072100121.html

then twin turbo it





nm..pre '10 had no LSD

Well i just killed my subaru. I hear bottom end noise and turbo is making bad sounds.

I am considering building the motor but i may cash out and be done with the subarus. Yes the tune was safe. I think the motor ran low on oil and with the new suspension i could corner a lot harder and put down the power in the turns. That plus too little oil = blah.

My miata was super reliable and a fantasic worry free purchase for 4 years until i turboed it. I will take that as a lesson.

I have done well for myself getting a decent job and income. I shouldnt have to make myself worry about or deal with this shiz. Blech

well it only took you 2 months:laugh:

Do yourself a favor: buy something that's fast from the factory and still under warrantee. DO NOT TOUCH anything on it. Just drive it.

I'd rather have the M5, believe me.

To be honest, the interior isn't that bad. I went from a B5 S4 to the C5 interior and there were some transitional pains but I got over them quickly.

The interior in the C6 Z06 parked next to the C5 is, I daresay, worse. :party:

you need a Tesla. I don't think you could break that.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340208200

He should just take a cab wherever he needs to go. I am pretty sure that is the only way he won't break something.

dey call her da helicoptah cuz dat bitch flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Pick up a nice clean stock 04 C5Z and STFU. With sport seats they are super comfortable. I used to drive my FRC 400 miles each direction to and from school and it was just as comfortable as the grandma buick, and pulled better MPG's too.

If you cry about the interior, you are a soccer mom, a yuppie, or just want an excuse to hate American cars. For the price, it can't be beat. Once I'm making decent money, I'll be back in one.

fukken this. I drove my car about that distance recently and it was surprisingly comfortable but the seating position makes receiving roadhead from hoes difficult -- as I found out somewhere north of Orlando.

ummm, wat?

Please explain. From where I'm looking the c6 interiors are leaps and bounds superior to the c5

in the C6, everything feel and looks like plastic. in the C5, everything is also plastic, but it feels a lot cozier. it's hard to explain but the C5 feels a lot better inside.

Sawzall + extension cord = Fael.

Get a 997. Don't jump it. Live happy ever after.

Also I really, really, really dig that Superlite SLC.
http://www.gt40s.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1319502012
..and enough room for a twin-turbo V8.

Just get a Bugatti Veyron

Like the new mustangs, they look better, but feel FAR worse. I hate interiors with square edges, especially on the shift handles, center consoles, and arm rests.

The only gripe I had about the C5 was the steering wheel. It lacked volume control I've become used to with newer cars.

As a valet driver for a few years, I drove about everything short of Ferrari's and Lambo's. BMW's and Benz's never did impress me much. The Jag's weren't bad though.

Got one for ya.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340213721

Yeah but he'd go to jail for taking a sawzall to that

With that budget, I would either buy a Radical or a Atom. Stupid fast and you can build your own turbo Honda for the Atom if you feel the itch. Personally, if i am spending that kind of money I'd rather buy the car and then "build" my own tweaks to it. then again, a Fox body coupe, race suspension, and a 12 Boss 302 crate engine would be retarted too and maintenance and parts are dirt cheap.

That car without twins is 150k+
Not even close to to budget.

At a base price of 43k without driveline, and no extra goodies.
There's around 40k worth of extras on their site alone not including interior.
You have to add a 8k-12k for a Gxx transaxle and
8k-12k for a basic motor.

This would get you just enough to be streetable.

Your at 60k-70k and have a car less dailyable than an Exige.

I know, I wasn't posting it as a suggestion here. I just like it because it has so, so, so much potential. Everything I could ever want in a car.

I think a 997 is the best choice. Reliable, super mega awesome place to be inside, awesome to drive. Sure, doesn't make MAD POWER YO but for a "super spiffy daily driver" it fits the bill.

yes but you'd look like such a pimp

Also

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge...#ht_500wt_1182

$80k reserve not met
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340214982

The reason I know the specifics, is because I have/am considering doing it.
I would build a striped version for the price I listed.
There is a blog somewhere where someone built one for less than 60k

Fae's criteria is nowhere near mine.
With what he wants in a car this isn't an option,
but could be at close to his budget if he lowered some criteria.
This IS the car he wants but not in the budget.


That ISF would be in the running for me with Fae's criteria.
Nearly a perfect car, but I don't think I could choose it over an M5.

Very cool but he needs a production car he can take the dealer when he messes it up.